It's allright, I've posted some instructions that works just fine under Mavericks as that's what I'm using. Thanks all for the guidance. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
On 10 Mar 2014, at 15:03, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris, I think Kawal's instructions were written before Mavericks, and like a > lot of other things, Mavericks has added a few twists. Kawal's instructions > work fine and are correct in their general procedure, its just the little > wrinkles that Mavericks has added, like getting into and out of those combo > boxes that needed tweaking. > On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Apple boy <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all >> So are you saying the instructions posted don't actually work? I'm talking >> about the one that was forwarded to here. >> >> >> Regards Chris >> >> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! >> >> On 10/03/2014 00:08, Phil Halton wrote: >>> Hello Cathrine, >>> >>> I encountered the same problem of getting stuck in the combo box. I found a >>> way to do the remapping of any key in the "to" combo box to the grave >>> accent key. Here's what needs to be done. >>> >>> 1) VO to the first shift check box and park the mouse on it by pressing >>> VO+command+ F5. >>> 2) VO right arrow to the first combo box and press the grave accent key. >>> Don't open the combo box with VO Space, just move to it and press the >>> accent key. >>> 3) Now VO right arrow to the next combo box and here you do want to open >>> the box, so press VO Space on it. That'll bring up a list. arrow down and >>> back up to select the insert key in the list. >>> 4) now to get out of that list, you need to turn of VoiceOver with command >>> F5, then do a mouse click by pressing down on the mouse pad (careful not to >>> move the mouse, just press straight down on the pad). >>> 5) turn VoiceOver back on and you'll be out of the combo box and you can >>> use VO right and left arrows to read your selections and make sure they're >>> right. then move to and click the ok button. >>> 6) back in the previous screen , the table should now contain your remap. >>> You can uncheck the "enable remappings" checkbox and the remap will remain >>> in the table, but won't be active if for any reason you don't want to use >>> it but don't want to delete it. >>> >>> BTW: There's no particular significance to parking the mouse on the shift >>> checkbox, you just need to have it parked on some element so when you click >>> the mouse after shutting off VO, it'll snap the system out of that weird >>> combbo box situation. I successfully followed this procedure twice to test >>> it out and make sure it works before sending the message. >>> Good Luck. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Catherine Turner >>> <catherineturner2...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi again, >>>> >>>> Ok so I tried to remap keys in Fusion and can't get it to work. I get >>>> to a list of current mappings and press add. I'm then in a dialog >>>> where it seems I'm supposed to choose the key I want to press and then >>>> what I want it to map to. There are some checkboxes with all the >>>> modifier keys, I leave them unchecked. There's then a combobox which >>>> I press and then I get stuck. It seems like it's listening for >>>> whatever key I press but neither the grave key nor the insert key on >>>> my external keyboard are being picked up by this. Additionally the >>>> only way I can get out of this is to press command q to quit Fusion. >>>> >>>> Is it possible to do these mappings with Voiceover? Or is it >>>> impossible, in which case I guess that's why people are using Sharp >>>> Keys. Will look for that podcast then, but it'd be good to hear if >>>> anyone has successfully remapped using Fusion preferences... >>>> >>>> Catherine >>>> >>>> On 3/9/14, Catherine Turner <catherineturner2...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>> Ok, will go the easy route first and try remapping from Fusion. Have >>>>> you any idea why the caps lock works with NVDA? Seems odd as I >>>>> wouldn't have thought what programs are running inside the VM would >>>>> make a difference to whether osx passes through a key or not... >>>>> >>>>> Catherine >>>>> >>>>> On 3/9/14, Apple boy <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> This is just so awesome! I honestly thought you absolutely needed Sharp >>>>>> Keys in order to use Windows on mac properly with screen readers. Now I >>>>>> see Fusion alone can do this, I will take the easy way out and use the >>>>>> remap settings in Fusion. Although I'm coming in late to this thread, >>>>>> I'd like to thank those for showing us this awesome tip. It may just >>>>>> encourage those who were discouraged previously, myself included, to >>>>>> re-visit Fusion again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/03/2014 13:46, Phil Halton wrote: >>>>>>> You're exactly right, OSX doesn't pass the caps lock key to the windows >>>>>>> VM. The workaround is to remap another key on the keyboard to act as a >>>>>>> caps lock or insert key. Many people remap the grave accent key (above >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> left tab key and below the escape key) to caps lock. >>>>>>> This can be done several ways, one way being the use of a windows >>>>>>> program >>>>>>> called "sharpkeys". . >>>>>>> Another way, is to remap the grave accent key to the insert key from >>>>>>> within fusion settings themselves, and then Jaws will respond to the >>>>>>> grave >>>>>>> accent key as though it were the jaws modifier key, either caps lock or >>>>>>> insert, whichever you setup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember, you can remap any key you want, but the grave accent is rarely >>>>>>> used, and so makes a good candidate for remapping. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am currently using the grave accent, remapped using SharpKeys, to act >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> a caps lock key with Jaws set to use the laptop keyboard with caps lock >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> modifier key. It works great for me. Although, I'm going to switch to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Fusion key remap method just to simplify things and eliminate the need >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> a program like sharpkeys. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a podcast on how to use the sharpkeys program on applevis.com, >>>>>>> search for "sharpkeys" and it should come up in the search results. . It >>>>>>> can be a little tricky to understand and use the first time, so if you >>>>>>> need help and specific directions on its use, sing out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BTW: I find that keeping a full-sized Apple USB keyboard around is a big >>>>>>> help when using these remap procedures. I just plug it in and it gives >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> a insert key that jaws and NVDA will respond to as their modifier keys. >>>>>>> Its really indispensable when you start changing the modifier keys and >>>>>>> need both a caps lock and an insert key temporarily. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example, using the fusion method, I find I need that keyboard in >>>>>>> order >>>>>>> to have an actual insert key I can press when trying to make the fusion >>>>>>> key remap as there is no actual insert key on the apple portable >>>>>>> keyboards. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Catherine Turner >>>>>>> <catherineturner2...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm having some problems using JAWS in a virtual machine and wondering >>>>>>>> if anyone can help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm using JAWS 14 on Windows 7 via VMware. I usually use an external >>>>>>>> keyboard with my MacBook because I'm one handed. I normally use the >>>>>>>> desktop keyboard layout for JAWS but am without an external keyboard >>>>>>>> now. I'm wondering how people manage on the Mac keyboard with JAWS. >>>>>>>> My understanding is that JAWS should be able to use the caps lock as >>>>>>>> the JAWS key but I can't get this to work. I chose laptop layout from >>>>>>>> the keyboard layout in basic settings but whenever I press caps lock >>>>>>>> Voiceover just says caps lock on or off and JAWS acts if I'm not >>>>>>>> pressing the JAWS key e.g. if I press caps lock and t for title, JAWS >>>>>>>> just says t. It's as if the caps lock key isn't being passed through >>>>>>>> to Windows. But this is strange because it works properly when I use >>>>>>>> NVDA instead of JAWS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can anyone help? Am I missing something? Any ideas why JAWS/Windows >>>>>>>> isn't picking up the caps lock? 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