Even the lowest MacBook Pro has a dual core i5 CPU which runs as four
processors as far as OSX is concerned. So from a Fusion standpoint I'd
try bumping the CPUs up to two. Many threads I read have lackluster
behavior for Windows 7 when running just one CPU. I'm not sure how CPU
intensive a mush client is but Jaws can suck up a lot of CPU on its own.
At least that's worth trying. Worst case is that it has no effect. You
could also try the latest Jaws and see if that makes a difference. You
can just download it and install it concurrently with Jaws 12 and run it
in 45-minute demo mode. As far as crashes, are you saying Fusion,
Windows 7 or Jaws crashes?
CB
On 2/19/14 2:30 PM, Shannon Gerdts wrote:
Hello Chris,
We have the second teer of the 13 inch macbook pro that came out
recently so it has one of the cores allocated for running windows, by
default 60gb of hard disc space, and we tried the 2gb of memory which
was default and 4gb but it seemed to act the same. We're running
windows 7 home premium and jaws 12 and for the most part it seems to
be sluggish mainly on mushclient and I'm not sure why that would be.
It also isn't allowing mush to pull up any of the configuration
windows like the output config, the plugins, triggers, aliases, etc.
Whenever we try to do it even manually going through the menus it
crashes.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Blouch
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trying to install fusion
Hmm. With an SSD it should be pretty speedy. How many CPUs did you
allocate? Which flavor of Windows did you install? What version of Jaws?
Do you have the same issues with NVDA?
CB
On 2/18/14 7:51 PM, Shannon Gerdts wrote:
Hello Chris,
Our disc drive is a solid state since it's the new retina versions
of macbooks which only come in the ssd option. They only saved one
of the older versions of macbook pros in the 13 inch version which
has the old style hd's. For whatever reason though even switching it
to use 4gb or 4096mb of memory for windows it was still running kind
of slow and I'm not sure why.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trying to install fusion
Memory-wise, that should be fine. Next would be disk performance. Since
you're on a laptop it's going to be laggy. For example, my MacBook Pro
comes with the Apple Hitachi 750GB drive which is 7200 RPM, which isn't
too bad but some machines save power with slower 4800 or 5200 rpm
drives.
CB
On 2/18/14 3:32 PM, Shannon Gerdts wrote:
Hello,
Thank you guys for the responses! Our laptop we purchased has
8gb of ram so I was thinking of giving 4gb instead of 2 to the
windows system for better response times.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trying to install fusion
One bit of caution is to not starve RAM on the Mac side. Mavericks
doing
nothing seems to take up about 1GB RAM. So if you are on a 4GB RAM
machine and give 2GB to your virtual machine, and VMWare taks abouther
3-400MB of overhead, that leaves just 1.5GB RAM or so for the mac side.
Open Safari and a bunch of tabs and you can start triggering virtual
memory swaps. That said, Windows is also very disk intensive, which is
why folks with SSDs are so happy with performance. Not sure why MS
designed it that way but Windows just beats on the hard drive. So if
you're on a laptop with a power sipping but slower 2.5" spinning drive,
Windows just isn't going to be as responsive.
CB
On 2/18/14 1:36 AM, Joseph Norton wrote:
Hi:
To increase the memory, first, shut down the VM. Then, once it's
shut down, you can press command-e to get into settings or that
VM. You should see options for processors and memory in there.
All you do is adjust the memory size and close that screen.
Hope this helps.
On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello,
Ok so continuing along this thread. We've now got fusion
installed, jaws installed and now noticing a bit of a problem.
This problem is when using various programs, currently we're using
mushclient, it's seemingly running a bit slow giving about a half
a second to one second lag on every command inputted.
I'm thinking this slow down is due to the fact I couldn't get
the customize settings button to work when installing windows onto
fusion so that I could adjust the amount of memory used from 2gb
to something like 4gb instead. Does anyone know if there is a way
to modify this once windows is installed or is the only way to fix
this to completely redo the windows installation on fusion and try
and get that customize button to activate?
I'll explain what I mean by not getting the customize key to
work. When I got beyond the screen where I chose the windows
version to install, the user name, windows product key, etc. it
gave me the confirmation screen and showing me how much gb of hard
disc space it would allocate, the amount of memory it would
allocate, etc. It had it set to 60gb of hard disc space by
default and 2gb of memory set by default so I wanted to try and
hit on the customize settings button after I hit my right arrow
keys beyond those displays of the default settings while using the
quicknav keystrokes. I then tried hitting the up and down arrow
keys together while using quicknav, turned off quicknav keys and
hit VO spacebar, hit enter, hit space, etc. and every single time
it would seemingly always hit the finish default button where it
would want me to save the virtual machine file and start
installing windows.
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated as I feel
we're so close to having my wife up and running with everything on
her computer except for these minor adjustments to make her
windows experience much more enjoyable and doable in some cases.
If we can get this sorted out the only thing we have left to
figure out is how to use the jaws cursor, pc cursor, and
left/right click commands on windows inside fusion without a
number pad and for whatever reason the standard laptop keys don't
work for this.
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
-----Original Message----- From: Caitlyn and Maggie
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 7:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trying to install fusion
Wow, this is interesting. So, after you c/p the installation file
into the folder of choice, onceyou open the vm, or rather, run the
vm, you should be able to run the installation file and install
your screen reader?
That sounds much neater then fiddling around with narrater and
going onto the web or fooling around with usb drives..
thanks!
Caitlyn
On Feb 17, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Joseph Norton
<joseph.nor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:
Actually, if you have the installation files (like j14.xxx.exe)
on the Mac, you can copy and paste to the vm.
Just select the file in Mac OS, press command-c to copy. Then, go
into the VM, make sure you are in the desktop or another folder
(like Downloads) and press command-v. It will copy the file onto
the Desktop or into the folder you have open. This has worked
for me in Fusion 5, so I'm assuming it should work in 65 as well.
Hope this helps.
On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Shannon Gerdts
<bambam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I actually never did try that. However, after a while and still
having it say fusion busy anytime we went to that window we
decided to do a forced quit on the application and reopen it.
When we did this it suddenly brought up the screen where we
could start installing windows allowing us to complete this task.
However, now I have a follow up question which I'm not sure how
to do just yet. Now that I have windows installed in fusion and
I have narrator up and running I'm trying to figure out how
exactly I can copy say my jaws installation from my dropbox on
the mac OS to fusion so that I can install it on windows there.
Any idea how I go about doing this so that I can get windows
fully up and running with jaws and therefore allow my wife to
fully take advantage of having windows on her mac?
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
-----Original Message----- From: Terje Strømberg
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Terje Strømberg
Subject: Re: trying to install fusion
Have you tried to turn off Voice Over and turn it on again?
Take care
16. feb. 2014 kl. 01:01 skrev Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com>:
Hello everyone,
So I'm currently in the process of trying to install fusion on
my wife's laptop. However, after we told it to continue after
putting in our license key it just sits there saying fusion
busy. Anyone know why this would be or how we can find out
what's going on so that we can finish getting it installed and
get to installing windows?
Take care,
Shannon Gerdts
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