Hi Jes,

I've not installed Snow Leopard yet, but I do understand your concerns. I 
would just like to say though, that you can use shortcut keys in Windows to 
launch applications. I'm sure you know this smile.

I do understand your concerns about the ability to script taking the onis 
away from developers. You also made a good point where VO gives a conceptual 
layout and it may be the only screen reader apart from possibly NVDA to do 
this.

I think it is a nice feature though but I hope that Apple developers 
continue to make their programs accessible and VO continues in the way that 
it has always done. The ability to add scripting is a nice featue though. Do 
we know for certain that we can script applications with VO?

Take care

james
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jes Smith" <theeternal...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:52 PM
Subject: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest


>
> Hi all.
>
> I am greatly concerned that voice over now has support for scripting.
> Especially now that you can make voice over launch an application with
> a single script. I'm not talking about glancing at the time or seeing
> how many unread messages you have in mail. I'm talking about opening
> up apps like mail or Safari from within Voice OVer. I am concerned
> that voice over is starting to become a bit like Jaws, and that if we
> don't get a grip on it now, voice over will become Jaws for Macintosh.
> I, like Mike Arrigo, don't feel that launching apps is something that
> should be implemented in a screen reader. Also, I fear that the use of
> apple scripts will replace the responsibility of an application
> developer to make their application accessible right out of the box.
> On the Windows side, if something isn't accessible with Jaws, you just
> download scripts for it. What if you go to another person's computer
> and they don't have the scripts for the app you are trying to use?
> It's my belief that a certain article from the NFB prompted this
> scripting support. Folks, the thing I like about voice over is that it
> gives the blind user the same conceptual layout and information as it
> appears on the screen to a sighted user. No other screen reader does
> this, and we should keep voice over as a screen reader, and let it be.
> If we don't, eventually, when we try and contact an Apple developer,
> they will either ignore us, or will say, "Well, just download the
> scripts for my application and you will have access."
> Any thoughts? If someone disagrees with me, I'd love to hear your
> arguments, not so that I can persuade you to agree with me, but so
> that I can have a new perspective.
>
> Jes
>
>
> > 


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