I would only add here that Apple has done right things when it comes to accessibility, but their argument with Google has nothing to do with accessibility. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Blouch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate
Tech crunch had a slightly different view as to the validity of Apple's claims in the FCC response: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/21/the-simple-truth-whats-really-going-on-with-apple-google-att-and-the-fcc/ CB Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: Hello; Yes, apple has done a great thing with the iphone. Those of you that have one should read the apple response to an fcc filing by google on the apple website. It appears that google is attempting to use the fcc to force apple to carry google's whole package of phone aps. I was impressed with apple's responses to the questions and the fact that they listed the request for information and their answers in such a public forumn. Its another example of how a company trying to do things the right way is being put upon by other companies that could care less about accessibility as long as they get their market share. Check it out. there is a link to it on the apple main page. Take care, Max On Aug 23, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Yes, what apple has done is definitely a first. And, this leaves the other phone manufacturers without excuse that making a touch screen accessible is not possible. Hopefully other companies will build accessibility in to their phones, the way it should be. On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Rich Ring wrote: I didn't want an iPhone when I first saw it. I didn't believe I would master it. However, with a lot of practice and a lot of yelling at myself and the phone, I feel pretty comfortable with it now. It is amazing that Apple engineers could come up with a way to make the most visual interface one could imagine workable for people who can't see the screen. ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:37 AM Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate Yeah, I understand that and the typing wasn't so much the issue, just couldn't quite figure out when I was swiping left/right while in a menu; I was hearing characters and when swiping up/down I was hearing menu items. Like I said, I've heard all the podcasts and the like, but really had no idea what I was doing really only having it in my hands for just a little while. However, I have a much better feel for it and of course without the security cable attached, it will be much easier to hold and such. I'm very much impressed with the phone and want one. THink I'll be a little more patient and see what happens by the end of the year and if a new model will be out with maybe a little better battery life. :) Actually, I'm wondering what folks are finding for battery life. I'm sure mine would be a little shorter then if just using the phone since I'd want to replace my iPod basically. :) On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: You get used to the typing. It can take a while, but you do. Best, Donna On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Funny, I had the opportunity to play with the iPhone at the AT&T store today and I so wanted one. The big thing holding me up is that AT&T doesn't have enough coverage quite yet in our subway system and VZW does have better coverage in general, but that didn't stop me from reaching toward my wallet at least once. The only tricky part I couldn't really figure out initially is I had open a note and tried typing, but that wasn't quite as successful, but then I also had the phone tied to the alarm cable, which didn't let me get to far. :) Then I hit home and tried to navigate to another app while the notes was open and I heard letters and application names. Well, for not having used the phone ever, it wasn't bad and I really didn't have a good environment to play in, but the volume was just loud enough for me to do a bit of playing. I think it would have been easier if I had been able to just hold the phone without any wires and walk around/out the door, I mean really get into playing with it. Now here is the best part. I asked the gent at the store about accessing the menu to turn VoiceOver on and damn if he didn't know exactly where it was and even knew what VoiceOver was. I was quite impressed. On Aug 22, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Rich Ring wrote: The iPhone is wonderful in many ways. I wish I could send contacts via bluetooth as I could with a Nokia phone, and I wish it was a bit easier to delete text messages, and I truly wish the battery life was better, but I do love the little critter. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Sanfilippo To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate personal opinion, The pac mate and street talk are both dead animals. The only thing I like about the pac mate now is the braille display and the ability to use it or the pac mate itself if either is not working. The braille display is the better part of the hardware, in my opinion. My experience with the pac mate and street talk, is that: 1, the gps receiver provided with the package can be far too tardy in tracking satelites, or being tracked by them, take your pick. 2, you need a blue tooth card installed in one of the cf slots, and your maps installed in the other, which means you need to do some jiggling around and setting up before you can get going. 3, I found that the entire setup was a hoffible drain on the pm battery. This is true on the cel phone as well, but at least there, I can bring along a spare battery and there is no setup. My two cents. js ----- Original Message ----- From: John G. Heim To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: iphone vs pac mate I am thinking of selling my Pac Mate in favor of an iphone. 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