Thanks Steve and Ester,
Yes, I've been using the energy saver options, but was wanting a  
better solution.  As for using iTunes, I hadn't thought about that.   
Thanks for the great information.
an
On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

>
> Thanks Ester, will give that a try.
> On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Esther wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> In some cases, like ExpanDrive before the fix, the overall
>> accessibility of the app is not affected because the same information
>> is easily available through other menus or shortcuts and the status
>> menu icon is simply a convenience. The only other thing you can try  
>> is
>> navigating to the status menu bar (VO-M twice or Control-F8), then
>> turn on Mouse Keys and try to move your cursor to the left,
>> periodically checking what is under the mouse.  When you hear "button
>> is under the mouse", you can try to route your mouse cursor there and
>> click.
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2009,  Dan Eickmeier wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Another one that i've found, and recently started using, is the Mac
>>> version of Carbonite.  There's an option to display status in the
>>> menu
>>> bar, but I'm not seeing it in my status menus, even though I have it
>>> checked.  I've sent an email to them about this, so hopefully  
>>> they'll
>>> fix it.
>>> On Aug 17, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Esther wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Gary, I took a look at Caffeine, and I'll outline how to get around
>>>> the inaccessibility of the status menu bar icon via an AppleScript,
>>>> since they the authors provided hooks for this.   However, this is
>>>> an
>>>> issue I've seen with a few other apps, including a couple that have
>>>> counterpart iPhone apps, and the link Benjamin posted to Apple
>>>> Developer forums applies to these cases.  The issue of placing an
>>>> icon
>>>> on the status menu bar that VoiceOver can navigate to in ExpanDrive
>>>> has been solved.  I don't know whether the developer used the
>>>> private
>>>> API or the public API solution, but here's the background.  I
>>>> reported
>>>> the accessibility issue with the ExpanDrive status bar icon to the
>>>> developer back in November.  When a member on another list enthused
>>>> about this app (which allows you to integrate files on FTP and SFTP
>>>> servers with your desktop GUI and Finder with a fast, robust
>>>> interface
>>>> and a lot of nifty features) and its accessibility a few months
>>>> later,
>>>> I asked whether you could now navigate to the icon on the status
>>>> menu
>>>> bar with VoiceOver.  (This was not really an issue for the  
>>>> usability
>>>> of the application with VO, since the menu bar is only one way to
>>>> navigate the app.)  His first report back from the developer was
>>>> that
>>>> they didn't think it was possible for apps that Apple didn't
>>>> release.
>>>> However, I pointed out that the freebie tool, SoundSource, from
>>>> Rogue
>>>> Amoeba used a status menu bar icon that VoiceOver could navigate  
>>>> to,
>>>> and that it was also possible to get to the DropBox status bar icon
>>>> and menu (albeit in a weird way -- you bring up window chooser menu
>>>> and VO-F2 twice, then select "Untitled".  If your cursor is routed
>>>> to
>>>> your mouse, you'll hear "Dropbox menu" and then you can click with
>>>> TrackPad or Mouse to open the menu).  That led to the posts from  
>>>> the
>>>> ExpanDrive folks and a fix to the service menu icon.
>>>>
>>>> For Caffeine, I found that opening the Application bundle with the
>>>> contextual menu to "Show Package Contents" gave me a Caffeine.sdef
>>>> file in the Resources folder.  That showed there were definitions  
>>>> to
>>>> turn on or turn off Caffeine via AppleScript.  So you could  
>>>> create a
>>>> "Turn On" AppleScript as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Launch your Script Editor (with Spotlight, or by going to "/
>>>> Applications/AppleScript/Script Editor" and opening the file)
>>>> 2. Type or paste in the following line (You may want to change 3600
>>>> to
>>>> some other number -- this is the time in seconds, so the example I
>>>> gave turns Caffeine on for 1 hour):
>>>> tell application "Caffeine" to turn on for 3600
>>>> 3. Compile the AppleScript with Command-K. (Optionally, run the
>>>> script
>>>> with Command-R)
>>>> 4. Save the AppleScript with Command-S.  You can save it as a
>>>> script,
>>>> in which case you'll have to run it (Command-R) to use it, or save
>>>> it
>>>> as an application that will execute when opened (but then you won't
>>>> be
>>>> able to edit it to change the time; you could probably code this to
>>>> prompt for the time to use).
>>>>
>>>> You can also create an AppleScript to turn Caffeine off, by pasting
>>>> in:
>>>> tell applications "Caffeine" to turn off
>>>>
>>>> Just out of curiosity, wouldn't it be easier to go to your Energy
>>>> Saver preferences (in the menu for the battery on your status menu
>>>> bar) and just set the slider to never go to sleep mode when you  
>>>> want
>>>> to make these changes?
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Esther
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's exactly the problem i'm having..  I wonder if he got a
>>>>> response
>>>>> to the question?
>>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2009, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/08/2009 Gary wrote:
>>>>>>> I installed it but found it not to be accessible
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears it adds an item to the Status Bar. I can't work out  
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> access that item with the keyboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if this is because of a similar problem to that  
>>>>>> described
>>>>>> at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.apple.com/archives/accessibility-dev/2009/Apr/msg00007.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently you can script Caffeine with AppleScript. That might  
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> alternative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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