Hello Chris,
I don't want to run this thread into the ground, but.
It still amazes me how many times people tell me that I am being  
overly concerned and I don't agree with them at all. My equipment and  
in several cases, the data are really worth it and I don't plan to  
change my approach at all. I suppose that it bothers me that a lot of  
people just don't really have any real regard for the kind of  
insurance equipment protection and backing up data is really worth.
Like everyone else, I have also lost data and I try to do my best to  
keep things running smoothly.
Dan
On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Chris G wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I'd rather lose a machine then lose the data.
>
> Some data you just can't get back.
>
> I have data from 1992 in WordPerfect 5.1 for dos format.
>
> I make multiple backups of all my machines.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:30:56 -0400
> Scott Howell <s.how...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dan in my opinion, there is no such thing as overkill.  If your going
>> to spend a thousand dollars or more on a machine, then there is no
>> reason to spend $50 or even $100 on protecting it.  I haven't even
>> taken into consideration the data that in some cases may not have a
>> dollar value, but sure is worth something to you.  Believe me, I've
>> lost data in the past despite my best backup solutions and loosing
>> expensive hardware is a drag.  I know a number of folks who lost
>> machines or parts there of do to a lack of good protection.
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Dan wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> My Uninterrupted power supply has cable and modem surge protection  
>>> as
>>> well. I use all my protection, I never bypass it. It may or may  
>>> not be
>>> over kill, but it works for me.
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2009, at 3:36 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I disagree.  There should be a surge protector/arrestor between the
>>>> router and the wall jack.  So, you'd have in your example A as the
>>>> walljack, B as the cable running from the wall jack, to C the surge
>>>> protector/arrestor, D the cable from surge device, to e router, and
>>>> so
>>>> forth.  The point is you can't just put a surge suppressor on the
>>>> electrical side, but at any point that connects to the outside  
>>>> world
>>>> such as the phone lines or network beyond your own subnet.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2009, at 3:15 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A router between the wall and the mac might help in the future.
>>>>> Consider
>>>>> it a bullet stopper to prevent the mac from being taken out.  Same
>>>>> principle applies why external modems are better than internal
>>>>> modems for
>>>>> PC's.  They're bullet stoppers which may or may not work in the
>>>>> event of a
>>>>> lightning strike.  A network switch connected to the router might
>>>>> also
>>>>> help.  But let's back this up a little so you can picture this
>>>>> better.
>>>>> Letters connect to each other in order with what I'm about to  
>>>>> write.
>>>>> Given, a is the wall jack, b is wire connected to wall jack, c is
>>>>> router
>>>>> connected to b, d is wire going out of router, e is network switch
>>>>> connected to d, f is wire going out of network switch, and g is  
>>>>> your
>>>>> mac
>>>>> connected in the ethernet port to f.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know what to tell you, but everything that that is
>>>>>> connected
>>>>>> to the electrical mains or to a network drop should be routed
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> a surge protector. This will help, but of course is no guarantee
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> there may very well be some components, which are affected more
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> others. I guess I've just been very lucky and if you have
>>>>>> homeowners
>>>>>> insurance, they may very well cover it if the machine is  
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> toasted. I can't possibly imagine why resetting the pram would  
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> such an impact though. If you have an Apple store/service  
>>>>>> facility,
>>>>>> might be worth having them look at it to see if there is  
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> else going on. Good luck, I know it really sucks when something
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> this happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Mike Reiser wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing else that was in the serge protector was effected.  The
>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>> is connected through a netowrk drop on the wall.  My speakers  
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> plugged into the serge protector.  The keyboard isn't and it's
>>>>>>> usb,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> also the monitor adapter isn't.  What's wierd is it stopped
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> after the Apple store employee had me reset the pram.  Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Chris G <cgrabowsk...@gmail.com>
>
>
> >


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