Hi James/Alex, Thanks for your input here. James, I'd be interested to hear if you've done any configuring to make access to apps on the remote machines you ssh to better?
Coming back to my 3 questions thanks for the clarification re interaction with the scroll area for screen review, that's fine. But I'm still frustrated that multi-line output from commands isn't automatically read and would either require me to interact with the scroll area to review the output or as Alex suggests pipe output to a file for review. I'll be doing primarily Java development (with some C++/Python/Ruby thrown in) so an efficient edit/compile/debug cycle is really important. Getting the output of the Java compiler to read as it appears instead of having to review it or even worse pipe out and review would probably improve my productivity by an order of magnitude. On the remaining point does anyone use any ncurses based apps such as Pine or Lynx on remote machines and discovered a way for better cursor tracking? Anyone raised terminal accessibility issues with Apple? Many thanks, Garry -- Garry Turkington garry.turking...@gmail.com On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Michael Babcock wrote: > > hi; > jumping in here, but i use terminal all the time for sshing into the 3 > servers i administer, if someone has a better way to do this, that > would be wonderful, but i just use it now and love it:) > On Jul 21, 2009, at 1:10 AM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi Alex and all, >> >> Aren't VIM and Nano Linux command line tools? I'm sure I've seen >> them when >> I've played with Linux? You can port these to the Mac I take it how >> cool. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alex Jurgensen" <asquare...@gmail.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:39 AM >> Subject: Re: Optimizing terminal accessibility >> >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Gary, >>> >>> I use it all day with varied success. Nano is a new eddition to my >>> toolbox and it seems to have a few qwerks, but nothing major. I also >>> used to use VIM, but found it crashed a lot with VO. >>> >>> You are correct that interacting and moving the VO cursor is the only >>> way to read prior text. >>> >>> As far as interuptions, you should pipe the contents to a file and >>> read it from teh file instead. >>> >>> What knd of development are you doing? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 20-Jul-09, at 8:09 PM, Garry Turkington wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I played with the Mac terminal last year and got some help from >>>> people >>>> here re its accessibility. I'm now using my Mac a lot more and want >>>> to >>>> get the most out of the terminal so am requesting wisdom from others >>>> out >>>> there. >>>> >>>> From the command line I really need the ability to do development >>>> locally >>>> and connect to remote machines via ssh. I've found a few issues: >>>> >>>> 1. Any command that generates multi-line output seems to be >>>> truncated by >>>> the prompt or new line announcement. Good example is "java - >>>> version". I >>>> can improve this by setting a much shorter prompt in my shell but >>>> it's >>>> still very hit and miss. Is there any way to configure things to >>>> more >>>> reliably read new information? I've tried messing around with >>>> cursor and >>>> terminal types with no success that I can really point to. >>>> >>>> 2. Is there any way to review prior text on the screen or is >>>> interacting >>>> with the scroll area and moving the VO cursor up the way to do that? >>>> >>>> 3. When connecting to remote machines -- and to a lesser degree >>>> locally -- >>>> I need access to some ncurses applications but the cursor tracking >>>> with VO >>>> seems very unpredictable. An example would be to open "lynx - >>>> show_cursor" >>>> on the remote box and try and say navigate around the CNN homepage. >>>> Or >>>> use something like pine where cursoring around changes text >>>> highlights. >>>> >>>> Anyone got advice as to how I can make all this work better for me? >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> Garry >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Garry Turkington >>>> garry.turking...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---