> Not quite, imagine if you will that there are 1000 lines of text in  
> the message and not 120 or so.  If you know there is text 75% of the  
> way down  that you are interested in how can you get to it  
> effectively, and  consistently.  Often especially in digest  e-mails  
> there are large blocks of text that are uninterresting. Also,  
> sometimes while in WEB group mode tables within e-mails  appear to  
> be browsable as tables with VO-(right,left,up ,down) scanning tables  
> and columns as expected. Other times Each column appears as a  
> different line as I arrow down.  I really don't mind one too much  
> over the other, but I can't understand  which mode  VoiceOver is  
> going to pic at any given time.

Jon

On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:

> hi ,
>
> with macbook i read it as follows:
> vo j to jump to the reading window, cursor tracking on, interact  
> with the text and then vo arrow until i find the right line.
> i hope i understood well your question.....
> rossy
> Il giorno 11/lug/09, alle ore 16:43, Jonathan C. Cohn ha scritto:
>
>> OK, here is an example for reading long messages. Generally when I  
>> am reading e-mail I turn off cursor tracking which allows me to use  
>> numpad-6 to read a message in the reading pane of Mail. When I get  
>> a message like the below I often want to skip ahead. In this case  
>> to the article about accessible crosswalk signals. If I  have  
>> cursor tracking off, then when I use Voice Over find, it finds the  
>> appropriate section quickly, but then if I use the numpad-2 to  
>> continue reading the Voice Over cursor jumps back to where I was  
>> reading before I did the VoiceOver find option. Do you folks think  
>> this is a bug? Can anybody else reproduce the same?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Disability Services <disabilityservi...@fairfaxcounty.gov>
>>> Date: July 10, 2009 1:35:20 PM EDT
>>> To: disabilityservi...@listserv.co.fairfax.va.us
>>> Subject: Disability E-News 07-10-09
>>> Reply-To: Disability Services <disabilityservi...@fairfaxcounty.gov>
>>> Sender: disabilityservi...@fairfaxcounty.gov
>>>
>>> Inside this issue:
>>>
>>> 1.      HHS Facilitating Citizen Access to Health & Long-Term Care  
>>> Options
>>> 2.      Companion Registry Now On-Line
>>> 3.      Call for Performers for 2010 International VSA arts Festival
>>> 4.   Entertaining Information Fair for the Whole Family on July 19
>>> 5.   Board Issues Guidance on Accessible Pedestrian Signals
>>> 6.   Accessible Vehicle Recall Notice
>>> 7.   ADA Question of the Week
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.   HHS Facilitating Citizen Access to Health and Long-Term Care  
>>> Options
>>>
>>> In support of President Obama's proclamation of the "Year of  
>>> Community Living," U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary  
>>> Kathleen Sebelius announced a funding opportunity that will make  
>>> it easier for older and younger adults and their families to  
>>> access health and long-term care options through Aging and  
>>> Disability Resource Center Programs (ADRCs).  ADRCs provide  
>>> information, one-on-one counseling, and access to programs and  
>>> services that can enable people to remain in their own homes and  
>>> communities.  ADRCs are designed to reduce the confusion and  
>>> frustration consumers and their families often experience when  
>>> trying to find needed information, services, and support. The  
>>> funding availability includes the development or expansion of  
>>> ADRCs in 50 states for a total of $10 million.  To learn more  
>>> about ADRC's, go to www.adrc-tae.org
>>>
>>> 2.  Companion Registry Now On-Line
>>>
>>> Fairfax County's Companion Registry is now on-line through  
>>> SeniorNavigator.   The Companion Registry is a list of people who  
>>> offer companionship and assistance with activities of daily living  
>>> to older adults and adults with disabilities.  SeniorNavigator is  
>>> an on-line source of information and referral resources for older  
>>> adults and people with disabilities.  The Registry can be found at 
>>> http://snipurl.com/mi6ng
>>>
>>> 3.  Call for Performers for 2010 International VSA arts Festival
>>> VSA arts is seeking performing artists with disabilities or groups  
>>> with disabilities who are interested in performing at the  
>>> International VSA arts Festival in Washington, D.C. from June  
>>> 6-12, 2010.  The International VSA Arts Festival will bring  
>>> together artists, educators, researchers, and policy makers with  
>>> disabilities from around the world for a multicultural celebration  
>>> of the arts and arts education. The festival will feature visual,  
>>> performing, literary, and media artists from all corners of the  
>>> globe.  For more information and application information, please  
>>> visit http://www.vsarts.org/callforperformers.  The deadline is  
>>> August 3, 2009.
>>>
>>> 4.  Entertaining Information Fair for the Whole Family on July 19
>>>
>>> Festability (a festival of family fun for all) is taking place on  
>>> July 19 from 12:00 to 4:00 p.m. in Chantilly.  The festival is a  
>>> great opportunity to learn more about services and resources  
>>> available to individuals with disabilities.  There will be a  
>>> variety of things at the festival to suit everyone's interests,  
>>> including resource tables, a moon bounce, exhibits, teen lounge,  
>>> tailgate DJ, children's activities, and music by Fight the Bear.   
>>> Lunch and beverages will be provided.  Don't miss out on this  
>>> information and fun-filled event. .  Festability is sponsored by  
>>> the Virginia Ability Alliance, which is made up of several  
>>> organizations dedicated to serving and advocating for individuals  
>>> with disabilities
>>>
>>> It will be held at the Dulles Expo Center, North Hall, 4368  
>>> Chantilly Center Drive in Chantilly, 20153.  There is no admission  
>>> charge.  Seating is limited, so please bring a folding chair.
>>>
>>> Volunteers are needed for this fair!  Please contact Ashley Haddow  
>>> (Fairfax County Community and Recreation Services, Inclusion  
>>> Specialist) at 703-324-5214 or ashley.had...@fairfaxcounty.gov if  
>>> you are interested in volunteering.
>>>
>>> 5.  Access Board Issues Guidance on Accessible Pedestrian Signals
>>>
>>> Product innovations and improved technologies have enhanced the  
>>> accessibility of pedestrian signals now on the market.  Low-volume  
>>> audible signals and tactile features have been incorporated into  
>>> the design of products to provide access to pedestrians with  
>>> visual impairments.  The industry standard, the Manual on Uniform  
>>> Traffic Control Devices, includes specifications for accessible  
>>> pedestrian signals that derive from recommendations developed by a  
>>> former Board advisory panel, the Public Rights-of-Way Access  
>>> Advisory Committee.
>>>
>>> The Board has released new guidance on installing these types of  
>>> pedestrian signals.  The guidance entitled "Common Problems  
>>> Arising in the Installation of Accessible Pedestrian Signals"  
>>> reviews access features of available products, including locator  
>>> tones, audible and vibrotactile indicators of crossing cycles, and  
>>> signal volume, as well as explains important considerations in the  
>>> placement and orientation of signal devices.  The low-volume  
>>> indicators of current products make proper installation essential  
>>> in order for signals to be effective.  The publication uses case  
>>> studies and field evaluations to illustrate various installation  
>>> do's and don'ts' in relation to common site conditions and  
>>> factors.  The publication, which includes an installation  
>>> checklist, is available at http://snipurl.com/mdyp2 along with  
>>> other resources on accessible public rights-of-way.
>>>
>>> 6.  Accessible Vehicle Recall Notice
>>>
>>> Please not that the use of the term "handicapped," was not the  
>>> decision of E-News editors but is a proprietary term used by the  
>>> Ford Motor Company.
>>>
>>> In regard to the recall, Ford's Handicapped Driver Services is  
>>> recalling three model year 2004 and 2005 Ford E-250 rental vans  
>>> built on Ford chassis and equipped with Ricon platform style  
>>> wheelchair lifts.  These vehicles fail to comply with the  
>>> requirements of the federal motor vehicle safety standard:  
>>> "platform lift installations in motor vehicles."  The threshold  
>>> warning system may not detect the presence of a wheelchair or  
>>> mobility aid user within the defined threshold area. The user of  
>>> the lift could be injured should the lift move unintentionally.   
>>> For more information, visit: http://snipurl.com/mgxay
>>>
>>> 7.  ADA Quiz Question of the Week
>>>
>>> True or False?  A communications assistant (formerly called a "TDD  
>>> operator") can add editorial comments when relaying conversations  
>>> between end users of the telephone relay service.
>>>
>>> Question and Answer from the last week's issue:
>>> A coffee shop owner has received a complaint regarding  
>>> accessibility. The shop has existed and been in business since  
>>> 1972. There are no conversions or alterations going on. The owner  
>>> was told he is violating the ADA because the shop does not have an  
>>> accessible entrance due to the four-inch threshold at the door.  
>>> There is also a complaint that the bathrooms are not accessible.  
>>> The owner is willing to modify the entrance but is afraid that if  
>>> he does he will have to put in new restrooms and he cannot afford  
>>> to do so. What is the owner required to do?
>>>
>>> Thanks to Jennie Miller for a response that is consistent with the  
>>> answer:  The answer is that "In this instance, the coffee shop  
>>> owner is required to provide an accessible entrance to comply with  
>>> Title III of the ADA because the modification is readily  
>>> achievable. However, the restrooms would not have to be modified  
>>> at this time if a determination has been made that it is not  
>>> readily achievable. If the building is converted or renovated in  
>>> the future, modification to the restrooms may be required."
>>>
>>> Please note that the items above are included for informational  
>>> purposes only and do not imply endorsement by the Disability  
>>> Services Planning and Development unit, the Fairfax Area  
>>> Disability Services Board (FA-DSB), the Department of Family  
>>> Services or Fairfax County Government.
>>>
>>> If you know someone who would like to sign up for E-News, they can  
>>> go to www.fairfaxcounty.gov and go to the "E-mail Subscriptions"  
>>> link on the left hand side.  At the "Email Subscriptions" page,  
>>> they can sign up for "Disability Resources and News" under the  
>>> Health and Human Services entry.
>>>
>>> Fairfax County is committed to nondiscrimination on the basis of  
>>> disability in all county programs, services and activities.  
>>> Reasonable accommodations will be provided upon request.  To  
>>> request this information in an alternate format, call  
>>> 703-324-5868.  The TTY is 703-449-1186.
>>>
>>> Department of Family Services
>>> Disability Services Planning and Development
>>> 1-703-324-5868
>>> TTY 703-449-1186
>>> Fax 703-449-8689
>>> www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dsb
>>> disabilityservi...@fairfaxcounty.gov
>>> 12011 Government Center Parkway
>>> Suite 708
>>> Fairfax, VA 22035-1104
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> This list (DISABILITYSERVICES) is hosted by the government of  
>>> Fairfax County, VA (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/).
>>>
>>> This e-newsletter can be made available in alternative formats.   
>>> Call Disability Services at (703)324-5421 or TTY at (703)449-1186  
>>> to request alternative formats.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >


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