On 5/28/2009 3:39 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > Sean, I'd be happy to entertain your below points, but firstly, > forgive me, but this honestly sounds like the very same rhetoric that > I hear all too often in the blind community which simply is a negative > response to touch screens?… Yes?… > > Is this really what your saying with the below, or are you > genuinely not understanding how current touch screen tech is already > used in the VI / blind community… > > Touch screen devices are already used by the visually impaired on a > daily basis… > > On the point of accessible apps, I'm also not sure what your > getting at here; Obviously, OSX / VO is already functioning just fine > with a wide range of applications and as Apple would most assuredly > extend the same paradigm to the IPhone, the same would logically hold > true… > > Yes there would probably be apps which weren't accessible, as there > are on the Mac, Windows, and various current Smart Phones / PDAs. > However, there's every reason to believe that if there were an > accessible IPhone screen access solution by Apple, that it's > integration alone, would allow substantial access out of the box as it > were. > > I'm not clear on why you'd suggest that an accessible IPhone isn't > really an IPhone. What do you mean here?…<smile> Is a computer not > 'really' a computer simply because it may run an accessible interface > solution?… This type of logic doesn't make sense to me, but I'd > certainly be interested in hearing where you're coming from on it, if > you don't mind… > > Sure, the user experience would be different from a sighted user, > but people customize their user experience very often, anyway. So > this seems kind of moot to me… > > Anyway, I hope I've understood you correctly here, and that the > above makes sense. :) > > Have a great day and talk with ya soon!… > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > --- > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > View my Online Portfolio at: > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > On May 28, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote: > > Can folks on this board help me out here? I don't see the point of > an accessible iPhone. The fluid dynamic of screen touch technology > combined with GUI interface seems like it is just a counter accessible > design form the get go. Once you make the thing accessible it is no > longer an iPhone. I may not be far enough outside the box, but even > if the iPhone were made accessible then all of the apps would still > not be. It is the same issue with Firefox. If Firefox wanted to be > accessible, they would be! From my understanding the mark-up is > there. The code for using it is free to the programmers and > developers... They just don't care to do it. > Shouldn't we be e-mail spamming Firefox to get with the program? > > > Sean Richards Tikkun > Apple Distinghuished Educator > class of 2007 > jaq...@mac.com > > > > <ADE_Logo_graysingle.png> > > On May 28, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Vicki Manley wrote: > > >> Hi, >> That would be so ace if they brought out an accessible i phone!!!! >> What a really great suggestion!!! >> Best wishes, >> Vicki. >> On 28 May 2009, at 06:37, Ben King wrote: >> >> >>> Dear Mac Friends, >>> >>> I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at >>> the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington. The person >>> that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to >>> see >>> improved in regards to Voiceover. I told him that Fire Fox would be >>> nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone. >>> Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and >>> play with main stream technology. I love Voiceover as well as the >>> Mac. I hope you all have a nice evening. >>> Blessings, >>> Ben King >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- > > From what I've heard the same fear was present when we moved to the gui, we will get to touch scereens as well I think.
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