Hi Renee,

First, you might know that if you and your partner creates two  
accounts on your Mac, one for you and one for him, you can both enjoy  
your very personal settings both in VoiceOver and everywhere else on  
your Mac,without any problems. You can set it up so that you can  
switch between your two accounts simply by using a menu in the Status  
menu area, without login/logout. You can even set it up so that the  
apps you use most will open up when you login, and this setup can be  
different from the setup your partner uses. When you fast switches  
between your accounts, you can leave your apps and docs open, so they  
are ready to use when switching back. This way, your account will have  
specific settings for using VoiceOver with magnification, and your  
partner will have specific settings for using VoiceOver with braille  
display.

Also, you might know that to get VoiceOver to read the content on web  
pages, you will need to interact with the html area, and if you use  
group mode, you might need to interact with the items VoiceOver is  
supposed to read. Even though your magnification shows the content,  
you need to interact with VoiceOver to read it out loud. However,  
instead of using control-option-down arrow and up arrow, you might set  
up the NumPad Commander, so that you simply need to press plus and  
minus to interact and stop interaction. Press control-option-Clear to  
turn on the NumPad Commander, make sure the mouse cursor follows the  
VO cursor and that the 5 key is set to Perform Action. The last two  
settings are found in the VO Utilities.

If you need further help, please let me know. Good luck!

John André in Norway



On 26. mai. 2009, at 01.38, Renee M Zelickson wrote:

> First let me say that I have low vision and I use voice over with  
> the screen magnified by pointing with my curser what it is I want to  
> have read to me for most things rather than the key commands because  
> I find it difficult to remember the key strokes and needing so many  
> fingers tu make a command.  I get frustraited when I try interacting  
> with stuff on the internet and making the computer read to me. The  
> settings I have make it harder for my husband to use my computer  
> because he strictly uses voice over with braille and having it set  
> my way is harder for him.
> I understand the new snow leopard will be having easier commands
>
> On May 25, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
>>
>> If you don't use windows, there is no reason to use fusion.
>> Unfortunately I still need to use windows for a few things, but it's
>> not an every day thing. Just curious, what do you find so frustrating
>> about voice over?
>> On May 25, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Renee M Zelickson wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All:
>>> I do have fusion and a version of windows on my mac book pro, but
>>> when I upgrade to the next mac for a lighter computer, I am
>>> wondering  and considering that I will not put the fusion on it.  I
>>> agree with all that was said here about windows, and as frustrating
>>> as voice over is, I would rather have it then a PC.
>>> I am finding that I am not doing anything in windows anymore, and am
>>> wondering why bother
>>>
>>> By the way, If there is anyone on this list that uses Transmit, and
>>> wouldn't mind me calling them with an issue I am having, can you
>>> please let me know?
>>> I cannot seem to upload a file and I am positive I have it write and
>>> my ftp settings are correct.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Renee Zelickson
>>>
>>> On May 25, 2009, at 12:57 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hum.  we were hoping to virtualize the bootcamp partician, so
>>>> that's a
>>>> mite disappointing.  It's nice not to be alone anymore though.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> erik burggraaf
>>>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
>>>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>>>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>>>>
>>>> On 25-May-09, at 8:20 AM, matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hi guys and galls. I to have seen this problem only it was with a
>>>>> macbook with an nvidia 9400. Hvn't found a fix for it except for
>>>>> installing windows on a vertual machine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/25/09, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure about this, but it's a crazy crazy thought,
>>>>>> Try installing jaws 9. see if that fixes the video / graphics
>>>>>> issues. Then
>>>>>> install jaws 10 if you can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I had issues recently with video intercept not working  
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> jaws 10,
>>>>>> so installed 9 and things seemed to come right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik
>>>>>> burggraaf
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 25 May 2009 6:41 a.m.
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Cc: blindt...@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Help? Jaws takes out a video driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi friends,  I wonder if any one has ever seen this problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's my configuration.
>>>>>> Macbook pro 2.53 ghz,
>>>>>> Windows XP home edition servicepack 2,
>>>>>> Bootcamp 2.0
>>>>>> Jaws 10 plus legacy versions,
>>>>>> MBP has an nvidia G-Force 9600 ngd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows and the bootcamp drivers install just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jaws fails and refuses to install the video hook, but in so doing
>>>>>> it takes
>>>>>> out the nvidia drivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, I got this computer half-way set up and then my hp
>>>>>> printer
>>>>>> refused to install because my colour depth was set to 1 bit and  
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> required
>>>>>> a minimum of 16 bits.
>>>>>> So I went looking and started getting all kinds of errors when I
>>>>>> went poking
>>>>>> around the display settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At that point I did a system restore and rolled back right to the
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> beginning the very first checkpoint after windows install.   
>>>>>> Then I
>>>>>> re-
>>>>>> installed boot camp and went pocking around with no errors.  It  
>>>>>> let
>>>>>> me set
>>>>>> my resolution to some rediculously high number just fine, and it
>>>>>> was already
>>>>>> set to 32 bit colours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I used NVDA to install my hp printer and it went in like
>>>>>> clockwork.  So
>>>>>> far So good, so I installed jaws and the video card errors came
>>>>>> back and
>>>>>> jaws refused to run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I rolled back again and tested to make sure there were no
>>>>>> errors in
>>>>>> display settings, and tried to install jaws 7 with the same
>>>>>> disastrous
>>>>>> result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has any one seen this problem?  Is it a bootcamp issue, a jaws
>>>>>> issue, an
>>>>>> nvidia issue, or is the problem between the chair and the  
>>>>>> keybord?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.  This was a very costly and
>>>>>> frustrating
>>>>>> bungle and I really need to get it straightened out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> erik burggraaf
>>>>>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
>>>>>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>>>>>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________
>>> Renee M. Zelickson
>>> re...@zeli.net
>>> www.zeli.net
>>>
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>>>
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> ________________
> Renee M. Zelickson
> re...@zeli.net
> www.zeli.net
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