Hi Felix,

It's not possible to use the voices for the new 3G iPod Shuffle for  
any other purposes and it's also not possible to use third-party  
voices (e.g., in other languages) for the new iPod Shuffle spoken  
menus.  This issue came up in questions to Assistiveware about the  
Infovox iVox voices, because there are some voices that are on the new  
Shuffle that don't have corresponding general language packs for the  
Mac (like Mandarin Chinese), and there are some new Infovox iVox  
voices that can be used with the Mac that support languages that  
aren't included for the new Shuffle (like Russian).  Here's the reply  
that David Niemeijer posted at the Assistiveware forums:

"I now have confirmation from Apple. You cannot use those iTunes  
voices for other applications because of license restrictions and you  
cannot use Mac voices you may have installed for iTunes to use on the  
new shuffle."

On a slightly different topic, earlier you asked about reading Safari  
web pages and there was also some followup discussion by Anne and  
others to a later related post about selecting and reading large  
amounts of text from a web page.  Anne alluded to the fact that many  
of use shortcuts to "Start speaking text" from the Services menu  
(speech submenu).  I also sometimes use a shortcut to "New window  
containing selection" from the Services menu (TextEdit submenu) that  
gives complementary functionality by sending the selection to a  
TextEdit window, and recently discussed this method in a post about  
Zoom text, low-vision functionality at:

http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg00719.html
(Re: Zoom Text on Mac Question [was Re: iTunes/iPod Shuffle Problem])

I'm mentioning it here, because a lot of discussion gets lost,  
especially extensive replies to new list members who tend to post  
their questions by replying to the middle of an existing thread on a  
different topic.

Using TextEdit is particularly useful for languages other than English  
since the letters and accents get announced (for example, when you  
switch input language keyboards, even in the case of non-Roman  
characters such as Greek or Russian).  However, regardless of that  
there are some very neat features.  The Services menu operations  
(whether setting selections to be spoken or to TextEdit) don't get  
copied to the clipboard (it's not like doing a copy and paste into  
TextEdit or to start speaking), so there's lower overhead on systems  
resources.  In the case of pages with lots of animated graphics, none  
of this gets sent over to TextEdit, but links are still clickable to  
bring up content in Safari if they use full addresses (not Java  
scripts). I can get content from web pages with problematic HTML  
elements where I can't interact, but where I can simply click in the  
window and select all with Command-A, then use my shortcut to send the  
selection to a TextEdit window.

The URL I gave is to the Mail Archive secondary archives that starting  
picking up this list at the end of February.  (Easier to search and  
navigate with VoiceOver than out main Google Groups pages).  Take a  
look at the discussion and links at the end of that post if you're  
interested.

Cheers,

Esther


On Mar 30, 2009, at 4:39 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Hi!
> I recently learned that the new iPod Shuffle speaks multiple
> languages, among them German, French, and Spanish. Apparently iTunes
> now contains its own collection of voices for generating the spoken
> title names.
> I'd be interested to know if it is possible to use these voices in
> other contexts, e.g. as system voices or for Voiceover. Has anyone
> tried this and lived to tell the tale? ;-)
> Greetings,
> Felix
> >


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