I actually didn't have to do all that navigation. I just went to web under the VoiceOver utility, tabbed once and used VO right arrow. Instantly I saw the options and selected the group mode radio button. As for Facebook it's a large and cluttered site. I like the mobile version but find that it won't let me see posts made in groups and won't let me comment on my own status. Neither site will let me delete applications once added. I've tried this with a few screenreaders on my XP machine and one of them at least tells me that there's a remove button but it won't let me press it. VoiceOver doesn't even recognise it and will only let me block an ap. Does anyone know how I can fix this problem? Also, can I delete the photos ap and still add photos? I'm sick of seeing "person A has added a new photo" or "B has commented on A's photo". These things do nothing for me.
On 03/03/2009, rayna424 <rayna...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Esther. I ended up speaking to someone on the phone and we went > over the group mode thing. I think I'll wait on that until I get more > comfortable haha. I'm finding that learning this like pealing an > onion, and so far I've only taken off the thin dry outer coating haha. > At least after my phone conversation, all those VO keys you mentioned > made sense. I've learned some stuff from reading manuals and such, but > find that the best way for me is by playing. And talking directly on > the phone definitely makes more sense. I'll keep group mode in mind > for future reference though, for sure. Thanks for your help! > > Randi > > Esther wrote: >> Hi Randi, >> >> Group mode is one of the settings in the VoiceOver Utility panel (VO- >> F8). Interact with the table (VO-Shift Down arrow) and navigate to >> the "Web" setting. Then stop interacting (VO-Shift Up Arrow) and VO- >> right to the settings under "Web". The first entry will be "When >> naviagating web content use" and there will be radio buttons for "DOM >> navigation" and "Group navigation". VO-right to the one you want, and >> use VO-space to select that radio button. Then use Command-W to close >> the Utility Panel window. >> >> DOM mode is a kind of consecutive ordering of visiting links. Group >> mode is hierarchical, and can be faster on pages you're familiar with >> (you navigate by groups and drill down by interacting to the precise >> item you want). Some web pages work better in one mode than another. >> This is also within individual usage preference. >> >> If you haven't done this, you should start by downloading the >> "VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Leopard" from >> >> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html >> >> which is Apple's comprehensive document on using VoiceOver. It's >> available in PDF (use Preview to read) or mp3 files or podcasts, as >> well as Braille and other formats. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:26 AM, rayna424 wrote: >> > >> > Group mode? Whats that? I can only write on walls if they write on >> > mine first. I can't access anyone's profiles to start any kind of >> > dialogue, other than commenting on people's status messages. >> > >> > >> > Eliza Cooper wrote: >> >> Hi Randi, >> >> I used to use the gmail notifier on my pc, but since the Mac's >> >> mail application makes a noise whenever you get mail if it's open >> >> (even if you're doing something else), I haven't needed to get it. I >> >> don't know if that helps any. Also, yes, I have a ton of trouble >> >> with >> >> facebook, and other than posting on people's walls and doing basic >> >> stuff, I've stopped bothering with it. Hopefuly other people have >> >> more success/patience. >> >> Eliza >> >> On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:51 AM, rayna424 wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> I just had a friend help me set up facebook yesterday. I'm finding >> >>> many limitations which apparently so are a lot of screenreader >> >>> users. >> >>> Anyone use? I go between mobile facebook and the regular one to >> >>> accomplish anything. Any pointers? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> Randi >> >>>> >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---