> On May 15, 2017, at 7:57 PM, Lenore Horner <lenorehor...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2017, at 18:48, Ryan Schmidt <ryandes...@macports.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2017, at 14:53, Lenore Horner <lenorehor...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 13:56, Ryan Schmidt <ryandes...@macports.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 12:03, Dave Horsfall <d...@horsfall.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 16 May 2017, Joshua Root wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can hit cmd-shift-. to show hidden files and folders in open/save 
>>>>>> dialogs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The question is of course why is /opt hidden in the first place?  This 
>>>>> smacks of the M$ "you don't need to know this" attitude.
>>>> 
>>>> I thought we were hiding it, but it's not hidden on my systems and I can't 
>>>> find anywhere in the Makefile or postflight script where it's being 
>>>> hidden, so I must've imagined it.
>>>> 
>>> /opt (and other things like files beginning with . /Library) are hidden by 
>>> the OS by default but it’s pretty easy to find instructions on how to turn 
>>> the hiding off or make a script to toggle hiding.  My guess is Ryan turned 
>>> the hiding off entirely on his system.  
>>> 
>> 
>> /opt is visible on all the systems I've checked, even those that are not 
>> configured to show invisible items.
>> 
>> The OS does not have any idea what /opt is or that it should be hidden, 
>> unless someone told it to be that way. Apple for example told /Library to be 
>> that way as of Lion. I thought we made /opt hidden, but I can't find any 
>> evidence of that now.
>> 
> /opt is not visible on my system (I usually us cmd-shift-G) even though files 
> I have set the hidden flag for are currently showing in my save dialog box 
> (but not things starting with .). The only directories visible at that level 
> are /Applications /Library /System /Users.  However, ~/Library is hidden. 
> 
> Info at 
> https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/FileManagement/Conceptual/FileSystemProgrammingGuide/FileSystemOverview/FileSystemOverview.html
>  sounds to me like MacOS may hide /opt by default even if doesn’t start with 
> a /opt directory.  It’s not really clear.
> 

I believe that /opt and certain other root directories are normally hidden 
unless you “show hidden files”  (also “dot” files).

This command is apparently still correct:  defaults write com.apple.finder 
AppleShowAllFiles TRUE;killall Finder

                defaults read com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles

On my iMac the Finder displays all hidden files.  
However, that does NOT have any effect on the selection display from within 
Safari (i.e. in Trac when trying to append a file to a ticket.)


T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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