On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:40 PM, John B Brown wrote:

> On 7/8/10 4:02 PM, Scott Haneda wrote:
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 9:39 AM, John B Brown wrote:
>>>     I'll stop getting entangled with functional anomalies in MacPorts. Any 
>>> UNIX/Linux utilities I want I'll modify for myself to work on my iMac. 
>>> There's a /usr/local here for a purpose; that's where the gnu utilities go 
>>> automatically.
>> 
>> I'm not sure why you are having so many issues with this.  I believe in 
>> reading over your thread you have done a completely new install of your OS.  
>> If that is the case, and you are having these issues, the only thing I can 
>> think of is you have corrupt installer discs, something is wrong with your 
>> hardware, or your process is flawed. Perhaps you are migrating in an old 
>> data file of ~/.profile or ~/.bash* or something that is causing troubles.
> 
>       Perhaps you misunderstand; there is NO migration of anything. I use the 
> install discs that come with this computer. They replace the install data 
> only, not my personal data; that is still there where I put it.

As mentioned above, MacPorts interacts with your personal data in the ~/. 
files, which could maybe be causing you issues.  I did not follow this thread 
closely enough to recall all the specifics.  I just get the general feeling 
that a complete clean install and working your way up from there may not be a 
bad idea.

>> I once spent many days brining online a G5 Dual CPU server to have issues in 
>> which nothing was working right, no apps would build, lots of problems.  It 
>> turned out to be a bad CPU.  I popped in a new CPU, and all my troubles went 
>> away.
> 
>       I'd like very much to know how you managed that with Apple's warranty. 
> In fact, if there are diagnostics available for the current Intel Core 2 Duo 
> CPU on this iMac I would run it in a heartbeat.

As far as I know, every non retail installer disc that Apple ships has Apple 
Hardware Test on it.  A small hidden partition, or perhaps it is a hook into 
the firmware, I'm not sure.
    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1509

It is not what I ended up using to determine on the dual G5 that one of my 
CPU's was bad, it was simply trial and error.  I pulled ram, put one back in, 
removed it, put another back in, etc.  Finally I got to the CPU's, pulled one, 
borrowed a known good one from another machine, problems went away, at that 
point, I knew what the issue was.

>> Far too many people are working with MacPorts in a perfectly reliably 
>> fashion aside from known issues.  Everyone at the least, has it installed, 
>> which is where your system seems to be having trouble.  I see no reason why 
>> that can't be accomplished on your system, unless there are hardware issues, 
>> software corruption, or silent data corruption problems.
> 
>       My current problems had better not have anything to do with MacPorts; I 
> wiped all that stuff I could find. My problem is with Adobe Flash new dmg not 
> running the graphics on Firefox.

When I ran the latest update from Apple, I had the same problems. I had to 
reinstall Flash clean, which means deleting all the little bits it left laying 
around in various places.  Just reinstalling did not work, and I could not find 
an uninstaller, nor do I believe it would get all the pieces.

>       I know, not a MacPorts problem, except all these problems first arose 
> when I installed MacPorts for the first time. I have made a couple of DVDs 
> with my wanted data and am about to start the disc scrub.

It is where I would start for certain.

>       But if you can point me at some accurate hardware diagnostics I would 
> like that very much. Here's my numbers;
> Hardware UUID:        57C6C486-5B2B-5CC5-BC10-594951CDE5E6

Apple hardware test, and also memtester, which there is a port for, and I'm 
sure someone here could build you a copy for your architecture.  memtester will 
take overnight to run to perform a good test if this is indeed hardware related.

You can also check your hard drive, which I have found that converting a DVD to 
any other video format, jacking up the settings very high, will yield a good 
CPU test, and also a great way to work your hard drive if you can set it to 
render out a ridiculously large file.
-- 
Scott (* For off-list contact, replace talklists@ with scott@ *)

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