I have a small stack of Mac Minis I got to use as a buildbot farm for Octave.app; I might be able to have them pull double duty for MacPorts depending on your change volume.

Cheers,
Andrew

On 5/19/21 1:16 PM, Mark Anderson wrote:
Yeah - we are certainly short staffed everywhere - I try to add more and more of my time to the project but aside from my ports, I'm still in learning mode digging through all the asciidoc and tcl and everything. I'm trying to build some tools to help me, but again, more time.

Once we move to the latest build bot, we might want to see if we can get other volunteers to host some hardware, but the problem is, we're going to have to hit up ebay or something and the infrastructure will be tougher.

I'm honestly not sure how we can manage to staff up more at all - I mean this is a FOSS problem all over for non-company sponsored projects.

—Mark
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On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 2:35 AM Ryan Schmidt <ryandes...@macports.org <mailto:ryandes...@macports.org>> wrote:

    MacPorts is short-staffed in all areas, not just infrastructure.

    Our Buildbot system works. It produces all the binaries we are
    able to.

    Our buildbot system was already substantially redesigned when we
    took it over from Apple in 2016 and will be substantially
    redesigned again as we upgrade to the latest version of the
    buildbot software.

    We already have a small infrastructure team who are interested in
    working on improving the buildbot system and our other
    infrastructure, and do so.

    We already use GitHub Actions for CI. We cannot use it to replace
    buildbot because it only offers recent OS versions and because it
    does not offer persistent machines.

    I personally am not comfortable adding other build machines to our
    buildbot system that I do not control. When I control the
    machines, I know what is installed on them and that they are set
    up correctly. Having build machines located outside of my local
    network also poses additional challenges, as I've learned by
    having our Apple Silicon build machine outside of my network,
    challenges which I would prefer to minimize, not increase.

    We currently use one build machine per OS version / arch, and have
    the hardware needed to do that. Adding more hardware such that we
    have more than one build machine per OS version / arch is not
    something our buildbot system was ever designed to accommodate,
    and would introduce problems.

    Using Linux and commodity hardware is not applicable because it
    the macOS EULA only permits running macOS on Apple hardware, as we
    currently do.


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