My own code is hard enough to troubleshoot. I can't imagine how bad
something Gemini gave up on would be...


On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 12:29 PM John R. Hogerhuis <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 9:02 AM Alex ... <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Hey John,
>> Okay, two ideas here...
>> First, as it stands now, MFORTH's neutered file access words are
>> read-only, but that seems more to do with the author's reluctance
>> <https://github.com/AbortRetryFail/MFORTH/blob/main/src/MFORTH/answords/file.asm#L446>
>> than any technical limitations of the machine. I don't think there's
>> anything stopping the user from using MFORTH to assemble machine code
>> somewhere in memory and then create a CO file to run it, but it doesn't
>> give you any tools to do so out of the box.
>> The second one, embedding MFORTH's interpreter? I have no idea how you'd
>> go about doing such a thing. Maybe it's possible, but I'm still puzzling
>> with how to translate DO...LEAVE...LOOP into the TASM macros. Pig iron,
>> rock, etc. :)
>>
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> Yeah all that sounds major. Packaging just a launcher which depends on the
> MFORTH as a runtime seems much easier.
>
> My knowledge is mostly about pre-ANS forth. Changing where it compiles
> words would be a matter of changing HERE.
>
> So I guess you would decide where to locate the CO. Change HERE and
> interpret the program, all the words would go there.
>
> The work seems like the boilerplate entry and exit. So some assembly code
> to get from my CO program into the interpreter and into the "init" word for
> my program.
>
> And then some code for the exit to return to BASIC control.
>
> And of course ANS forth is not FIG forth so there's probably some learning
> to get the dictionary headers into my CO. Maybe, maybe not.
>
> Might be fun to feed MFORTH code and docs into Gemini and see if it's in
> the mood to write the entry/exit for me.
>
> I've played with AI stuff lately and have been able to make useful web
> utilities and even some embedded C code. But it's funny because sometimes
> Gemini whines. Like, "oh that is complicated I think we should leave it as
> it is" and refuses to do what I ask.
>
> -- John.
>
>>

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