Stephan Witt <st.w...@gmx.net> writes: > Am 07.08.2013 um 03:37 schrieb Jerry <lancebo...@qwest.net>: > >> >> On Aug 6, 2013, at 6:04 AM, Rainer M Krug <rai...@krugs.de> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I recently switched from Linux to OS X. >>> >>> One thing I haven't figured out is how I can easily access the menu >>> items easily via keyboard shortcut. >>> >>> Under Linux, I did CTRL-I -- N - N to insert a Lyx note. Under OS X >>> (Mountain Lion) I have to use several keyboard shortcuts and navigate >>> with the cursor keys to open the Insert menu and I insert charactars i >>> the text: >>> >>> - CRTL-F2 gives focus to the Meu Bar >>> - i navigates to the Insert menu, but does not open it AND inserts an "i" >>> in the document. >>> - Cursor Down opens the menu >>> - and so on. >>> >>> Am I missing something here (I hope so)? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Rainer >>> >>> -- >>> Rainer M. Krug >>> >>> email: RMKrug<at>gmail<dot>com >>> >> Hi Ranier, >> >> For all the violence that the Qt widget set does to the Mac >> interface, it does do a lot of things right. One of these is that it >> plays well with the Keyboard System Preference (Apple menu -> System >> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Application >> Shortcuts). There, you can set any (available) keystroke combination >> to any menu item, using the modifier keys Shift, Command, Option, or >> Control, plus a normal key. This is a lot of combinations and you >> should be able to find many that do not conflict with >> already-assigned keystrokes. >> >> Maybe someone could take it up with the developers why so many >> often-used menu items in LyX are not assigned key combinations out >> of the box. > > I don't know if Insert -> Note -> LyX-Note is a so often used menu item… but > in principle you're right. > >> The method you describe is also available but is rarely used by Mac >> users because they don't know it is possible, and because it takes >> more effort than the above method for many instances. As you have >> discovered, you can get focus to move to the menu bar. (I found that >> Command-F2 is much easier to hit than Control-Anything.) Once the >> menu bar has focus, start typing letters until focus moves to the >> main menu item you want (usually one key is sufficient). Then hit >> Return (easier than down-arrow) and start typing letters again until >> the next level item is selected, hit Return, and so on. This will >> get you to any menu key without using pre-assigned key >> combinations. It should not insert letters into your document as >> long as focus remains in the menu structure. > > > Thank you for describing this feature. > > Yes, it should not insert letters - but LyX-2.0.6 at least is build > with Qt-4.8.4 for Carbon-API and this moves the focus *and inserts the > letter*. > I've checked the same with LyX-2.1.0-beta1. This build is done with > Cocoa-API based Qt and here it works. But I'd prefer to add the
OK - that's good to know. > shortcuts anyway. > My hand-crafted shortcut for note-insert is: Control-n-n. When using > the menu-focus-based solution I need to type (with german interface): > Control-F2-e-Enter-not-Enter. "not" is needed to move it away from Yes - this is a problem. But I will manage somehow. > "Nomenklatur…" to "Notiz". Another problem is the "typing timeout". If > you are to slow the focus doesn't move to the targeted menu > item. Obviously one can practice this to avoid it. Well - I am certainly missing these intuitive menu navigations under Linux (with few keys!) Thanks Rainer > > Stephan <#Secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> -- Rainer M. Krug email: RMKrug<at>gmail<dot>com