Gmane User wrote:
> Richard Heck wrote:
>> Gmane User wrote:
>>> I'm reading the online documentation, and see no navigation panel
>>> to navigate the chapters and subsections.  There is only the "Table
>>> of Contents" (TOC) button, which only shows 1st level headings.  
>> Look at the Navigation menu. The TOC button is there to insert at
>> TOC, not to provide navigation. (And, at least under Linux, you can
>> move the little slider at the bottom of the box that pops up when
>> you click the TOC button to expand it.)
> 
> Will try it in the coming week.

Works.  Awesome.

>>> So I tried to view the online docs as PDFs in hopes of seeing the
>>> full TOC, maybe even hyperlinked if I'm lucky.  However, this
>>> always seems to crash Lyx.  From the task manager, I can see all
>>> sorts of processes rising to the top of my list, sorted by CPU
>>> usage.  So no one process is stalled, but there might be a script
>>> caught in a loop.  Same thing happens if I restart Lyx and try to
>>> export to PDF.  If I try to print to a PS file the PS file never
>>> shows up (looked in the default directory, as well as the directory
>>> I specified).  I am able to print my HelloWorld file to PS, though.
>>>
>>> Are the online documents unprintable/unexportable in other Lyx
>>> installations?
>>
>> I don't have these problems under Linux. I do note, however, that
>> the first time I viewed the file as DVI, it did take a while. It's a
>> good-sized file. Try this: Find the temporary directory LyX is using
>> to do the compilation. You should see a .tex file there to which LyX
>> is exporting LaTeX. Run LaTeX manually on that file and see what
>> happens.  That's what LyX is doing anyway: Export to LaTeX; run
>> latex (or pdflatex, or whatever).
> 
> Will try, thanks.

Well, this reveals that the problem is probably not Lyx.  Even 1 pass
of pdflatex takes forever.  There's something very complicated about
the Tutorial tex file.

>>> I'm also interested in hyperlinking, both in the Lyx file and the
>>> final PDF file.  I know I can generate hyperlinks in LaTeX, but
>>> only in the final PDF (since LaTeX is just text).  Even that needs
>>> all sorts of files and commands embedded in the LaTeX file.  I
>>> understand that the user has to make them known to Lyx.  I'm not
>>> necessarily expecting someone to spell out step by step how to do
>>> it (though I wouldn't ignore it if someone did), I'd appreciate it
>>> if those who have tried going through the process can indicate how
>>> straightforward it is, assuming it is even possible.
>>
>> You just have to \usepackage{hyperref}. That will generate a lot of
>> links for you automagically. Others can be inserted using "ERT",
>> which allows the insertion of arbitrary LaTeX code in the LyX
>> document. So the process is pretty much the same as with LaTeX. Some
>> enhancement requests have recently been filed to make this a bit
>> easier, and the developers seemed enthusiastic.

Thanks for that.

>>> On the matter of making files known to Lyx, the template I'm using
>>> is for LaTeX use.  How painless is it to make it available to Lyx?
>>> I'm thinking that as I navigate the online docs, there might be a
>>> section that says how to point Lyx to the tetex tree that I set up
>>> for LaTex (I'm a bit new to that, too, and it took about 1.5 days
>>> to get the template working, including fetching missing files from
>>> the web). Thanks for an advance idea of what can be expected.
>>
>> I assume what you mean by a "template" is a LaTeX document class or
>> style. If so, then you need to create a LyX "layout" to go with it.
>> This can be anywhere from trivial to a pain in the tuckus, depending
>> upon the details of the class. But there are plenty of people here
>> who have experience writing these, and it's really not that hard if
>> you have any experience at all with coding. For what it's worth,
>> though, probably the most common complaint about LyX is precisely
>> that getting a new LaTeX class to work is harder than it ought to
>> be. But, on the other hand, it's something you aren't likely to have
>> to do very often, unless you're in the habit of creating new classes
>> all the time.
> 
> I don't actually have access to the computer in question at the
> moment, but I recall having to put a bunch of files from the package
> into the TeTex directory structure.  I also have a LaTeX file that
> has lots of commands already present, some of which I'm sure make
> use of those files in the TeTex directory tree.  I added a bunch of
> commands to actually make use of hyperref.  Depending on how the
> coming week goes, I'll probably give a shot at working on template
> from Lyx.

Just a non-follow-up -- haven't had a chance to try this yet, but I'll
probably revisit that path when I next explore the option of using
Lyx rather than Word.  For the current report, the template seems to be
behaving itself.

Thanks for your suggestions.

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