On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:37:50 -0800
"Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> From: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:49 PM
> Subject: Re: sixth release of LyXWinInstaller
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> My opinion is that if a file is allowed to 'browse in', it should
> work. Otherwise, it is a bug. A normal user would not care if it is
> latex' or lyx' or window', it is simply a bug. A lazy fix would give
> out a warning when a bst file with space is browsed in (since lyx know
> it will not work), and a better fix is handling .bst file the same way
> as the figures.
>
If I understand this correctly, you have a bib file that you included from the
bibtex browse option and it is sitting in a path with spaces, right? or did you
put it in the bibtex directory under texmf and you want it to be found
automatically?
Assuming the first one, I tried under linux to move an existing document to a
directory with spaces and then created another directory with spaces under it
and put the bib file in that. I then browsed to it and included it and it works
fine (under linux, didn't try windows yet).
If that is the case (and I will try windows later) then it most certainly is a
bug. If you put it into the bib directory under the texmf directory which
contains spaces in its path then it is a problem with the miktex installation
and not lyx.
Again, if it is in the texmf tree which is installed in a directory with spaces
its the problem of whomever installed it and didn't follow the instructions. If
the bib file is in a local user directory (with spaces) and included by the user
browsing to it then it is very much a lyx bug.
> Bo
>
> The browse function works as designed if you browse to
> a directory that adheres to the Miktex installation policy.
>
> It is not a bug if you circumvent a function that works
> correctly with the default bst directory install location.
> Anybody who changes parameters of a default installation
> is always responsible for problems arising from that change.
>
> In order to qualify as a bug, you need to claim that LyX should
> anticipate that a user will avoid installing bst files to the default
> folder, the only type (without spaces) of folder that works, but
> instead the user installs to a folder that won't work. Additionally,
> the LyX documentation should check for this and create a
> report for the user about what is essentially a Miktex gotcha.
> IMO, that is way too much to expect from online Lyx
> documentation, it falls short of being a bug.
>
> OTOH, I don't think you made a dumb mistake. I do doubt that
> it is a problem that a normal user will experience. Why is your
> report just now bringing up this issue, why hasn't there been
> a report about this from a normal user? Probably because the
> normal user doesn't encounter or expose this browse function.
> They probably use the ordinary procedures.
>
> That addresses the priority and depth of a solution. Angus says
> fixing this is fragile, difficult so time-consuming. It would fix a
> rarely experienced problem which has a great alternate solution.
> Using a directory without spaces is a very standard workaround.
> Windows uses double quotes (" ") to surround a path with spaces,
> and I think that should have a higher priority than: rewriting the LyX
> online doc plus a method to check the current directory for spaces
> and issue a warning to the user.
>
> I think writing an entry under WinLyX Tips which makes people
> aware of a potential problem is sufficient for a rarely encountered
> sticking point. Unless you think this is a more common error for
> normal users and nobody has bothered to report it in the past. I
> think it will be years before LyX developers have nothing better to
> do than to fix a Miktex/TeX limitation which is either not considered
> a bug, is a WONTFIX, or maybe can't be fixed.
>
> http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html
>
> 3.1 MiKTeX
> "The approved way to use TeX4ht is via a series of batch files. Therefore,
> it is important that you install MiKTeX to a folder whose name (and path)
> does not include a space. The default location, c:\texmf, is perfect. If you
> really don't want MiKTeX in c:\texmf, you should place it in some
> subdirectory whose name does not include spaces, like c:\ProgramFiles (note:
> no space here) or c:\DosPrograms. You could also place GhostScript and
> ImageMagick in that folder."
>
> Regards,
> Stephen
>
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