that is too bad. i really should say that latex ought to be the best application to calculate the height of the caption - so i can fit the image-float on a page without overshooting anything.
perhaps one could do a hack with some ERT? martin On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote: > > > ok - setting the width option to 0 something-else-than-scale% and then > > height to 100 theight% (and keep aspect ratio) that set the image height > to > > the full height of the text-body. that is nice. > > > > however > > > > > > the caption now conflicts with the footer ... that was not what i meant! > > > > You can only scale images, I am not sure you can scale floats which is > what you are thinking happens. > > The float is the image+caption. So really the scaling of the image, to fit > the float on your page, will depend how much space your caption takes up. > > For this you really need to proceed by trial and error. Now you know how > to sclae your image you will just have to play a bit. > > > > > > > martin > > > > On 12/12/05, Martin A. Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> the problem is, that you cannot set width to 0 scale% and then adjust > the > >> height option. the height option is locked as long as the width is set > to > >> scale%. > >> > >> > >> martin > >> > >> On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote: > >>> > >>>> i am still confused. > >>>> > >>>> page% -> that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge? > >>>> line% -> that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that > >>> text% > >>>> > >>>> and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be > >>>> pheight% as opposed to theight%? > >>>> > >>>> actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width > >>> = > >>>> theight and hight=text - i find that confusing. > >>>> > >>>> my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would > >>> like it > >>>> to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be > >>> fitted to > >>>> the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the > >>> paper, or > >>>> interferes with the footer or header. > >>> > >>> > >>> Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select > >>> 'maintain aspect ratio' > >>> > >>> Tell me if this works > >>> > >>>> random things to get there. first of all, since the determining > factor > >>> is > >>>> the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i > >>> have to > >>>> alter the width option from "scale%" to something else. but in doing > >>> that - > >>>> i may be setting the determining factor to something width related??? > >>> but i > >>>> must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the > >>> height > >>>> option.... > >>>> > >>>> so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. > that > >>>> results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom > >>> margin > >>>> is ok. > >>>> > >>>> - and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected > - > >>> and > >>>> the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok. > >>>> > >>>> now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable > >>> amount of > >>>> time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom > >>> margin > >>>> overshoots - but how to get it right? > >>> > >>> You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make > snese > >>> and set the others to 0 > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> martin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in > >>>>>> graphic-output works. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the > docs?!? > >>> ) ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> text% > >>>>>> col% > >>>>>> page% > >>>>>> line% > >>>>>> theight% > >>>>>> pheight% > >>>>> > >>>>> THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. > >>> So > >>>>> say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much > >>> smaller > >>>>> in print then the following are useful > >>>>> > >>>>> text% - this is percentage of text width > >>>>> col% - column width > >>>>> page% - page width > >>>>> line% - line width > >>>>> theight% - text height > >>>>> pheight% - page height > >>>>> > >>>>> So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the > >>>>> 'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve > the > >>>>> width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting > >>> distorted. > >>>>> However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to > >>>>> distort. > >>>>> > >>>>> In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want > >>> (taking > >>>>> in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option. > >>>>> > >>>>> Just play about and see what suits. > >>>>> > >>>>> Geoff > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> when to use which? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> moreover, when to set height and width? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> and when to use the "maintain aspect ratio" button? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> martin > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > > >
