On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 06:38:30AM +0000, Baris Erkus wrote: > Hello Again; > > This is a tough one.
+1 > I think the target audience and intended scope is also important. > > If the intention is more like a complete WYSIWYG software package (or bundle) > allowing users to produce documents right after installation without much > hassle of Tex and other setups and preventing them from dealing with > low-level Latex programming, it would be more reasonable to develop LyX as a > bundle/package of LyX Frontend+TeX system+misc components. This would make > the bundle more predictable and manageable if the components of the package > are package-specific and they are developed specifically for the package. In > this case, the TeX system should be customized by the LyX developers and > should not be allowed to be updated by a third party software. This is the > approach taken by Scientific Workplace and Bakoma, I guess. This approach would require more volunteers who are willing to be LyX developers on Windows. Unfortunately, most LyX developers are not comfortable on Windows. Riki has very bravely jumped into the Windows world to tackle the issues that prevent us from making a release. But the situation is not sustainable. > In my opinion, it is just not feasible/meaningful to achieve these two > different-and conflicting-by-nature intentions at the same time. It's possible that's true, I don't know. We tried to achive both by having both a bundle and an installer. But that just didn't work. I'm not convinced that a LyX installer bundling TeX Live would not work, I'm just convinced that right now we don't have a volunteer to put in the time to get that. > One of them should be chosen. My preference is the second approach since one > can never avoid a certain level of low-level intervention when dealing with > LaTeX even if the first time users(!). True. I don't think that we have as a goal for LyX users never to learn LaTeX. In fact, I usually advocate learning LaTeX well before using LyX, because I agree with you that eventually the user will need to learn it anyway. > Eventually every single user of LyX goes to SE, mailing list or other > resources to achieve a specific thing. +1 > Anyhow, I again want to thank to everyone, who put a big effort into > development of LyX no matter what direction is to be taken. Thanks for your thoughts on this tricky issue, Barış! Scott
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