On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 03:30:13 -0800 Mc Kiernan Daniel Kian <mc_kier...@oeconomist.com> wrote:
> >> I've an article, prepared in LyX, whose citations and bibliography > >> I need to have rendered in Chicago style. (Indeed, If I can get > >> the sections titles &c to conform automatically to Chicago-journal > >> style, that would be great.) > >> > >> I'd like to avoid a process of tweaking a .tex file. > >> > >> When I try to handl things by way of the preamble, LyX yowls about > >> conflicting specifications. If I have to do everything through the > >> preamble or by tweaking a .tex file, then I'd like to know how to > >> disable the build-in Bibliography processing. > >> > On 02/14/2018 03:11 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: > > > > As a general rule, > > > > provide a Minimal Working Example, ie the shortest LyX file with the > > shortest BIB file that demonstrates the issue. > > > > greetings, el > > > > On 14/02/2018 02:13, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan wrote: > That is a signally absurd response. > > A minimal example would be an empty LyX document. I could show you a > screen-shot of an empty preamble, but you presumably know how that > looks. Likewise for the Bibliography dialog. > > I could go a bit further, and post a bibtex file, and a LyX document > with a cite element and bibligraphy element, and ask “What do I do to > get LyX to render that cite element and the bibliogrpahy in Chicago > style?” But, again, you presumably know how bibtex files, cite > elements, and bibliography elements look. > > So far, I've seen you post one willfully passive-aggressive response > to one person, and then this foolish response to me. This list > begins to look to be a source of abuse, rather than constructive > response. I've rearranged the thread as bottom posted, so when somebody says "this" is absurd, we all know what "this" refers to, and when someone recommends a minimum working example, we all know what situation a MWE is supposed to improve. If we're going to criticize communication styles, let's go for clarity ourselves. Anyway, regardless of Eberhard Lisse's tone, the Minimum Working Example (MWE) is one of your most powerful tools for diagnosing LyX problems. Remember, he said " ie the shortest LyX file with the shortest BIB file that ***demonstrates the issue***." (emphasis mine). If the issue occurs on a blank document, start removing stuff from the document properties. At some point you're going to be able to toggle the problem on and off. Then, keep removing more stuff until the only stuff left is stuff that will toggle the problem. This is a true MWE. Once you have your true MWE, either the cause will be obvious to you and you'll fix it, or you can submit it and it will be obvious to your fellow listmates, or the LyX developers will tell you "whoops, that's a bug, let us fix that, and thank you so much for narrowing it down for us." The way I make MWEs is I keep dividing the remaining root cause scope of the document in half and seeing whether the symptom is still there, and continue until all that's left is maybe a sentence plus what is necessary to produce the symptom. Likewise, I keep simplifying the document preamble/properties until there's nothing there that won't flip the symptom if I remove/change it. A year ago I has a problem in which I couldn't produce my books on my new Void Linux computer if I used Century Schoolbook type, which is a must. Even a Minimal Working Example would fail if I used Century Schoolbook. So for LyX had I had to use a Ubuntu virtual machine guest: Inconvenient! Then one day a fellow author let me read his LyX produced book, which obviously had Century Schoolbook type. I made an MWE of his, and MWE of mine, compared, and the difference was obvious: He was using the TeX Gyre Schola variant SteveT
