On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak <skost...@lyx.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +0000, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a > >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems > >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems. > >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by > >> another clipboard manager. > >> > >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe > >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. > >> > >> Yours, Hermann Josef > > > > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX. > > > > So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome > these days, though.
I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the LyX note? Scott > > Liviu > > > > Scott > > > >> > >> > >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > >> > >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl > >> > <kommunikat...@regenpfeifer.eu> wrote: > >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here. > >> >> > >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that > >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that > >> >> problems in selecting text occur. > >> >> > >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension > >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), > >> >> gnome- > >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), > >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the > >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying > >> >> gpaste-demon. > >> >> > >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, > >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX > >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version > >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. > >> >> > >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The > >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme > >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not > >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, > >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. > >> >> > >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions > >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: > >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 > >> > > >> > > >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... > >> > > >> > Livu > >> > > >> > > >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes, > >> >> yours, Hermann Josef > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> >> > >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +0000, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > >> >>>> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an > >> >>>> important hint for the solution of my problem. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is > >> >>>> provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, > >> >>>> the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little > >> >>>> bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. > >> >>>> Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this > >> >>>> problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all > >> >>>> programs. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I > >> >>>> have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also > >> >>>> clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the > >> >>>> solution. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Thank you so much, with best wishes, > >> >>>> Hermann Josef > >> >>> > >> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the > >> >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste > >> >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the > >> >>> problem. It is hard to say. > >> >>> > >> >>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes > >> >>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users > >> >>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time > >> >>> though. > >> >>> > >> >>> Best, > >> >>> > >> >>> Scott > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : > >> >>>> >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very > >> >>>> >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer > >> >>>> >> or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > That seems very strange an annoying indeed. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only > >> >>>> >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, > >> >>>> >> regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with > >> >>>> >> keyboard shortcuts. > >> >>>> >> ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working > >> >>>> >> correctly and I can select text withput any problems. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of > >> >>>> > some sort)? > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > JMarc > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >> > >> > >>
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