On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 08:28:31AM -0700, Jens Noeckel wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2006, at 6:25 AM, Georg Baum wrote: > > > Jens Noeckel wrote: > > > >> I had brought up an issue on the LyX users list, see the quoted text > >> below; meanwhile I've looked around for some more info on this, and > >> felt I could make some suggestions here. Looking at Bug 2419, I see > >> the rationale for having self-contained export from LyX to LaTeX that > >> includes the matching graphics formats as well. But I think in order > >> for LyX to retain its full customizability it is also essential to > >> have a pure LaTeX export function that leaves included graphics > >> untouched. > > > > Why? The exported document is useless without the converted images. > > If the > > images are already in a suitable format they are not converted (at > > least in > > theory. If that is not the case please file a bug report). > > > >> Right now, both "plain and PDF"-latex exports run additional scripts > >> that attempt to provide not only the LaTeX file but also the > >> corresponding graphics files. But those kinds of scripts are not the > >> core functionality of a LaTeX export - they are added sugar. If they > >> have to be in the export menu, they should certainly not REPLACE the > >> original pure LaTeX file export; they should be offered IN ADDITION > >> to it. > > > > I guess that would not be too difficult to implement, but I see no > > reason to > > do it. Maybe it would help if you describe what exactly you are > > trying to > > do. > > The simple answer is: I'd like to see backwards compatibility > restored, because if you want to take lyx seriously as a command-line > tool AS WELL AS a GUI application, you have to expect that users will > find unforeseen uses for lyx. Just as the makers of ImageMagick had > to expect that "convert -depth 8" will be made an integral part of > LyX, the makers of lyx should then expect that "lyx --export" will be > relied on in some new application. Since "lyx --export" used to leave > graphics untouched in earlier versions, it should stay that way. What > would LyX developers say if "convert -depth 8" suddenly started to > add a legend to every figure it converts... (just to make a point)?
Agreed. Additional functionality should require an additional switch to be activated. > There are many applications for a bare LaTeX export. For one of my > lectures several years ago, I had made a script that exports a LyX > document as as PHP script so that it not only shows what I typed but > also includes some dynamic information. In that case, the included > graphics were placeholders for the points where dynamic information > is inserted in the PHP script. So I have no need for the graphics > from the LyX document to be touched during export. Nor it is necessary to also overwrite included material with a copy from the lyx tmpdir, thus modifying the timestamp of a file. http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 Note that you cannot skip the copy without aborting the entire process. Please, leave to Word the role of turning stupid trying to be smart. -- Enrico
