On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Michael Gerz wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >Importing the wiki is a *lot* of work (the markup isn't the same, and most
> >likely the features aren't the same either).
> >  
> >
> If there are less than 50 wiki pages, it should be doable even manually. 
> It would take a few days but definitely a limited amount of time.

A search of the users' field reports 325 pages not counting pages about
PmWiki or the major pages documenting the site installation. There's still 
some overhead here, but I'd guess we're talking about >200 pages with real 
content. 

In the developers' field the corresponding count is 132, but there's 
probably only about 50 pages that would need a look.

> I am wondering whether we really should adopt the pages as they are.

Many of these pages do contain outdated information and/or needs a
rewrite. In total a I think we're talking about 250 pages that need to at
least be reviewd. I also agree that refactoring the wiki pages makes
sense, but I'm also aware (better than most I think) of the amount of
effort involved here.

Something that *is* possible however is refactoring pages one group at a
time. For instance, going over the pages in a group such as Windows/ (it
only has about 30 pages, many relativey empty) should be doable relatively
easy.

(I remember you suggested it should be enough with 5-10 pages for the
Windows group, and I think I agree with you).

> If we moved to Trac, we should also redesign the pages. For instance,
> the Windows section of the WikiWiki needs some cleanup. And the
> WikiWiki/Website merge will require even more structural changes.

May I suggest that you take a look at the pages in Windows/ and suggest 
changes? There's nothing that prevents us from refactoring now... except 
the lack of time/resources of course.

In fact, if you have the energy, maybe you could even implement a new
structure with just a few pages in a group called for instance
WindowsTemp/.  This works quite well since links within a group don't have
to refer to the actual name of the group. It's probably also a good idea
to not mess directly with the current Windows pages if 1.4.0 is soon among
us. Another useful tip for quickly implementing a new structure is to use
the directive (:include:). Then you can easily pull in text from other
pages. For instance, (:include Windows.Windows:) inserts the page
Windows.Windows in the current page. And using
        
        (:include Windows.Windows#anchor1#anchor2:)

You can extract just the stuff between two anchors (inserted in the page
Windows.Windows pages with the markup [[#anchor1]] etc).

Hmm... I might have gotten sidetracked here. Anyway, it's quite feasible 
for you to try something like this.

/Christian

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Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44               http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

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