Andre Poenitz wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 06:47:25PM +0000, Angus Leeming wrote:
>> >> And I am still interested why I should sign not just GPL v2 (which is
>> >> just fine) but also any following version including the one that says
>> >> that FooBar Inc owns all my code.
>> > 
>> > For convenience.
>> 
>> Even less excitingly, because the current LyX licence is "GPL v2 or
>> later".
> 
> I noticed that in the meantime.
> 
>> We're not trying to change the licence, we're just bullet proofing the
>> desire to remove the XForms exception.
> 
> I appreciate that.
> 
>> > When a new GPL comes out and it is significantly better
>> > than the old one, it can be used straightaway without asking anybody
>> > again.
>> > 
>> > If push comes to shove and the FSF goes "evil", it is still us that do
>> > the releasing. Yes, FooBar Inc could release their own rip-off of LyX
>> > under GPL v666, but it wouldn't remain the mainstream version for
>> > long.
>> 
>> Incidentally, does the FSF not own the Gnu and GPL trademarks? Ie FooBar
>> Inc would be breaking trademark rules by releasing GPL v666.
> 
> Unless they buy out the FSF first.
> 
> It looks like I can't really resist here, however I am not happy at all
> about this "or later" thing. I am interested to keep my code (well, at
> least the part related to LyX) free and open in the spirit of the
> current GPL. If GPL v3 takes the same path, it will be just fine, and
> of course I can see the convenience point to have this "automatic
> update feature" installed.

As I understand it, the intent is to take advantage of any *improvements*
that GPL v3 will make. There are, apparently, holes in the current
version. google on "GPL v3"...

> But so far IT has seen quite a couple of guys jumping from good to bad
> to in-between and the other way round (IBM, SCO, MS, ...) and there is
> no guarantee that the FSF won't sell there ideals or will be forced to
> do so to FooBar666 Inc at some point of time which immediately will
> release GPL666.

My take? Nothing in this world is safe, but we've got to make some
reasonable assumptions to make any progress at all.
> 
> I doubt that I am the only paranoid person in this audience, so why is
> _everybody_ so eager to have this 'or later' thingy explicitly signed?
> 
> Andre'
> 
> PS:
> 
>> Even less excitingly, because the current LyX licence is "GPL v2 or
>> later".
> 
> Am I right in assuming that this may be read that everybody is happy
> with v2 and the LyX license could be changed to 'v2 only' without
> problem?  [Never mind, just thinking aloud...]

Yes, that's right. A fork of LyX could reasonably be released with a v2
only copyright. I say "fork" simply because I want to emphasise that
anyone can fork GPL-ed code at any time.

-- 
Angus

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