On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 05:08:51PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 10:58:52AM -0500, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: > > > > Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, > > > will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson) > > > > Are you sure? I usually see it attributed to Franklin--though > > either of them would be likely to have come forth with it (then > > again, the phrasing isn't qutie what I'd expect of franklin). > > For obvious reasons I am not. > > In any case (a) both seem to get cited on that and (b) the point > is that it was a US American who is said to having said that. > > Andre'
It appears the Franklin version is "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ...in a letter to Josiah Quincy, Sept. 11, 1773. Seems the meme got around :-) Martin
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