Igor
Please note that refstyle has its own definitions for all the different
types of references such as lists \xxxref{lbl1, lbl2, lbl3, ...}, ranges.
Your command \sssref{} is just a standard latex definition. In refstyle the
argument is processed further. Please read the documentation- refstyle.pdf,
refconfig.pdf. This is where the original problem with spaces in labels
originates. The algorithm removes all unbracked spaces to parse a comma
separated list.
To define a new reftype, for example a new reference for theorems:
\newref{thm}{
name = {theorem~},
names = {theorems~},
Name = {Theorem~},
Names = {Theorems~},
rngtxt = \RSrngtxt,
lsttwotxt = \RSlsttxt,
lsttxt = \RSlsttxt}
Then you can use (without custom labels)
\thmref{}
\Thmref{}
\thmrangeref{}{}
\Thmrangeref{}{}
\thmpageref{}
You need to define the same for your sss references. If you have
multilingual documents you must add the different texts for example:
\RSaddto{\RSnorwegian}{%
\def\RSthmtxt{teorem~}%
\def\RSthmstxt{teorem~}%
\def\RSThmtxt{Teorem~}%
\def\RSThmstxt{Teorem~}}
\RSaddto{\RSenglish}{%
\def\RSthmtxt{theorem~}%
\def\RSthmstxt{theorems~}%
\def\RSThmtxt{Theorem~}%
\def\RSThmstxt{Theorems~}}
\newref{thm}{
name = \RSthmtxt,
names = \RSthmstxt,
Name = \RSThmtxt,
Names = \RSThmstxt,
rngtxt = \RSrngtxt,
lsttwotxt = \RSlsttxt,
lsttxt = \RSlsttwotxt}
On Sat, 17 May 2025 at 14:24, Igor <rych...@gmail.com> wrote:
> While it worked for some *predefined* refs, such as secret and even
> subsecref, for automatically generated custom refs, the brackets
> method for dealing with whitespaces doesn't work:
>
> \label{sec:A B}
> \secref{{A B}} -- works!
>
> \label{sss:A B}
> \sssref{{A B}} -- doesn't work:
> LaTeX Warning: Reference `sss:{A B}' on page 1 undefined on input
>
> I notice that LyX adds these lines to the tex file:
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% LyX specific LaTeX commands.
>
> \AtBeginDocument{\providecommand\secref[1]{\ref{sec:#1}}}
> \AtBeginDocument{\providecommand\sssref[1]{\ref{sss:#1}}}
>
> I think secref has been already pre-defined by refstyle, but sssref
> wasn't, hence the above definition is used and leads to the error.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 4:14 AM Igor <rych...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > (Sorry, bringing this back under the right Subject Line)
> >
> > Thank you Daniel. Interesting. I'm glad we may still use brackets to
> > preserve whitespaces when referencing through refstyle's commands,
> > hope it won't create new problems, but at least label names are
> > allowed to have whitespaces after all :)
> > > \label{sec:A B}
> > > \secref{{A B}} -- works!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 2:39 AM Daniel Els <dnj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Igor
> > >
> > > The main command in refstyle that cycles through a list of references
> (and a single reference) is:
> > >
> > > \def\RS@ref#1[#2]#3{%
> > > \begingroup
> > > \RS@setkeys{RS@#1}{#2}%
> > > \@safe@activestrue%
> > > \edef\RS@tmpa{\zap@space#3 \@empty}%
> > > \@safe@activesfalse%
> > > \edef\RS@tmpa{\noexpand\RS@@ref{#1} \RS@tmpa
> ,\relax\noexpand\@eolst}%
> > > \RS@tmpa%
> > > \endgroup}
> > >
> > > It removes spaces and was intended for the following scenario, and
> that is how many people write a list of references with spaces in between
> > >
> > > \secref(aaa, bbb, ccc) -> \ref{sec:aaa}, \ref{sec:bbb},
> \ref{sec:ccc}
> > >
> > > If the \zap@space part is removed then we have the wrong reference:
> > >
> > > \secref(aaa, bbb, ccc) -> \ref{sec:aaa}, \ref{sec: bbb},
> \ref{sec: ccc}
> > >
> > > The refstyle package cannot distinguish between a space in a list and
> a space in a reference. If I change that it will break a lot of old
> documents. The second point is that in standard latex, spaces in labels is
> a newish thing. It was not always there. Also note even if you put 10
> spaces in a row in a label, latex only passes one through to the definition
> - see the .aux file. I think it is better to use an underscore _ or include
> your label in brackets {aaa}.
> > >
> > > Danie Els
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 9 Sept 2024 at 11:21, Igor <rych...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ==========
> > >> Cc: Danie Els
> > >> Hi Dannie,
> > >> Seeing that you've updated the refstyle packages quite recently, on
> > >> 2024/02/01, could you comment on the issue below? Full discussion
> > >> starts from
> https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg222793.html.
> > >> Basically, due to a refstyle bug (?) of eating up the whitespaces from
> > >> label names aka " refstyle does not support spaces in references", the
> > >> LyX developers have to either escape ALL label names or as suggested
> > >> in the patch below, to enclose the label's name within additional {}
> > >> just for refstyle's formatted references uses...
> > >>
> > >> I was wondering if you could rather fix it inside refstyle.sty?!
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Igor
> > >> ==========
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > > Seems like a refstyle's bug.
> > >> > > \label{sec:A B}
> > >> > > ...
> > >> > > \secref{A B} -- can't find the label sec:AB -- refstyle has eaten
> up
> > >> > > my whitespace!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > \secref{{A B}} -- works!
> > >> >
> > >> > Maybe, but as long as refstyle is not fixed (and I believe it is not
> > >> > maintained any longer), escaping whitespace seems better than such
> > >> > extra-grouping.
> > >> >
> > >> > > > \secref{{A B}} -- works!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Actually, considering all eventualities, this might be the best
> > >> > > solution, as the problem only concerns refstyle's formatted ref
> > >> > > commands. All other solutions that I could think of add
> unnecessary
> > >> > > complication.
> > >>
> > >> > > Does tex2lyx need some adaptation to avoid {{{{labels}}}} on
> > >> > > roundtrips?
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes, you're right.
> > >>
> > >> Jürgen, thank you for the patch and the others for the discussion. Let
> > >> me answer this question of yours:
> > >> > Would it work for you if we limited the space escaping to the case
> only
> > >> > where refstyle is used? I.e., could you uncheck "Use refstyle"?
> > >>
> > >> -- refstyle gets loaded automatically when I choose Formatted
> > >> reference through LyX GUI. Ironically I redefine most of the
> > >> refstyle's formatted commands underneath :) I'm going to test to see
> > >> how I can implement this with "Use refstyle" unchecked in the future
> > >> documents.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Igor
>
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