On 2020-08-16 23:13, Pavel Sanda wrote:
On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 09:16:05PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 16 ao??t 2020 16:08:25 GMT+02:00, racoon <xraco...@gmx.de> a écrit :
On 2020-08-16 16:06, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
Pavel was joking.
Was he?
I was actually serious. It's absurd to introduce new GUI switch for the sake
of single combobox appearance. To me one should strive to get bunch of other
developers on his side for the proposed change or add the patch to personal
patchset as a his own peculiarity.
From time to time it might happen that some change causes such conflict that
we go for a switch -- it is not good for the software itself, but for political
reasons we try not to make half of the team frustrated or similar.
I don't see this is the case here.
Personally I don't care whether old or new combo version is used, but I haven't
seen much support for the change from the others.
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Here are my initial, maybe not well
thought through, thoughts (these three words look so similar) about it.
I guess you don't like the current Preferences > Editing > Control
because it contains two GUI switches that seem to apply to a single
combobox appearance. But I think it matters not only whether it is a
single one but also whether it is a central, as in very often used,
combobox. Single sounds unimportant but single most used combobox sounds
a bit more important and might justify some ability for the user to
tailor it to the user's liking.
I have suggested the formatted combobox a little while ago with reasons
for why it might be a good idea (mainly giving an indication what the
layout is as is done in the work area). Everyone who has responded so
far (who are not too many) was indifferent so far, except for Riki who
seemed in favor. Maybe one could take the non-response of others as
indifference. Jürgen seemed to be indifferent of the default only under
the condition of a GUI switch.
People work differently. IMO there is no best for everyone in many
respects, in particular for the GUI. This is especially true for the
beginner compared to the experienced. That's why software should allow
the experienced user to change it to their liking, especially the GUI.
There is another reason this is true for LyX: new features don't get
much testing by users. So, it might be sometimes good to throw out some
new ideas to users with the ability to disable it to not force ideas on
users.
There is a number of software with many preferences. For example,
LibreOffice has many preferences. The applications is configured in a
way that the new user would not even have to touch them at all. That is
most important. But I guess the experienced user appreciates the ability
to set it to their liking.
Other software has rather simple GUI preferences but also advanced
settings. For example, Firefox has a (rather) simple main preferences
about:preferences and, for the advanced user, about:config.
Again, this is just my not well thought through thoughts (very similar,
really). So, take it with a grain of salt.
--
Daniel
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