On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 2:03 PM Jason Sun <ds...@cornell.edu> wrote: > The proper way to establish communication is to use ZeroMQ to interact > with IPython directly from LyX. I read the jupyter docs, it is something > we could try to do. I can communicate with the LyX main buffer now by > letting the main Browser to as ccess LyX.h, and thus have access to call > dispatch, and do the injection of variables. It does seem a bit naive > compared to the zeroMQ approach. But I would argue that it might be > sufficient for light uses. OTOH, if webengine is used, we should utilize > its full potential and design the communication framework properly. > > To answer some of other question: yes, this widget is dockable in either 4 > positions. It also could be dragged out as a single page view. > > I need to try see how hard it is to embed the zeroMQ communication layer. > It can be done for sure, the question is if it is worth the effort or do we > have some better alternatives. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 6, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Joel Kulesza <jkule...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:03 AM Jason Sun <ds...@cornell.edu> wrote: > >> I have built an example prototype widget that tries to combine LyX and >> Jupyter Notebook together. >> >> Is it implemented via QtWebEngine. Basically, by embedding a mini webpage >> browser inside LyX. >> >> A screenshot is here: >> https://github.com/jupyter/notebook/issues/1604#issuecomment-507746234 >> >> A bidirectional communication between LyX and Jupyter Notebook could be >> implemented via this browser. With the help of jupyter lab, we can get >> cross platform terminal for free. >> >> Would this be something worth further pursuing down the road? >> >> Using Web, a lot could be implemented. Especially, Qt 5.13 introduces Web >> Assembly. With the help of that, LyX could have it OverLeaf counter part >> with stronger abilities! >> > > Jason, > > Thanks for your thoughts and work on this. Sorry I've been quiet to this > point, but I hoped to ask a few questions as I think about how I'd use your > work. > > I'm a rather avid LyX user, and routinely use Jupyter notebooks. However, > I'm still not entirely clear how these two will be integrated. I see the > screenshot you provided on GitHub; however, it still seems like the LyX > document and notebook are quite separate. It's not clear to me what is > gained by putting them both within one window. Can you please help me > understand how you foresee a user interacting with these two? > > Some more pointed questions based on the interface you provided in the > screenshot: > > 1. I assume the browser component can be moved to be bottom half > rather than right half. Is that correct? I usually run LyX on half my > monitor, so I'd be reluctant to end up only running it in 1/4 (and Jupyter > in the other 1/4). > 2. Do you have a way to integrate Jupyter I/O with the LyX document? > For example, as a Python variable gets updated in an evaluation it will > then get captured the next time the LyX-produced PDF is compiled/viewed. > 3. Will your .ipynb be included in the File -> Export -> LyX Archive? > > Thanks again, > Joel > > Jason,
Thanks for your thoughts. However, my one main question still seems unanswered: how you foresee a user interacting with these two applications (LyX and Jupyter)? What is the workflow that you're imagining versus how it currently would be: with LyX and a web browser open separately? What advantage is gained through the coupling of the two applications? For example, are you working toward a LyX document with Jupyter-driven evaluated Python cells? Or, perhaps a Jupyter notebook that will generate a LyX document? Perhaps something else? Thanks, Joel
