On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Stephan Witt <st.w...@gmx.net> wrote:

> Am 14.03.2018 um 21:54 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:17 AM, Joel Kulesza <jkule...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM, <list_em...@icloud.com> wrote:
> >>> I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
> >>
> >> It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening
> with the PDF when I click the preview eyeballs.  It doesn't move the
> document to a particular point nor display the type of markup you described.
> >>
> >> I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did to
> set it up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0).
> >>
> >
> > OK. I have egg on my face. (I don’t know if that translates into your
> slang. 8^) First, I was not receiving all the list mail, only yours. I just
> now fixed my list subscription. Second and more important, as told in
> Stephan’s note, I did not have the document setting for “Synchronize with
> output” turned on.
>
> To be honest - it was Pavel who mentioned it first. I’ve luckily repeated
> this to make a self contained recipe. :)
>
> > I guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY everyone.
> With that turned on, syncing is working. The only problem that I see is
> that with reverse search, the Skim document window is not brought to the
> front—but the scrolling and highlighting does happen. Not sure that’s a LyX
> problem though—could be the OS or Skim not sending the right (Applescipt?)
> command.
>
> You want LyX front-most when doing the Command-Shift click in Skim? I
> think this may be a legal enhancement request for LyX.
>
> The work-around is to add custom arguments in Skim (I’ve grabbed it from
> LyX wiki):
>
> For standard LyX enter:
> "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate'
>
> For custom command e.g.:
> /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyxeditor "%file" %line ;
> /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate‘
>
> Stephan
>
> > Still, though, I first tested with the default document when selecting
> File -> New which is “Article (Standard Class)” and the “Synchronize with
> output” setting is already checked, by default. My mistake then I suppose
> was assuming that this would then happen with the IEEE template but that is
> a bad assumption.
> >
> > Sorry again for the hassle and thanks as usual for all the friendly help.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
>

My experiences and thoughts after experimenting with this:

   - I've tried to configure forward/reverse search with LyX+Skim (LyX
   installed from lyx.org and Skim installed via brew cask install) on two
   separate machines using 2.3.0rc2.  I've gotten only reverse searching
   working.  I do not have anything that indicates that forward searching is
   functional.  Can someone please post a screencast showing what correct
   forward search looks like so I know what to look for?
   - On one machine that reverse search works, both LyX and Skim are
   installed to /Applications.  On the other, they are installed to /local.
   For the /local installations, I had to use a custom Skim preference
   providing the full path to lyxeditor and the osascript append that Stephan
   copied from the wiki to get reverse search working.
   - Jerry noted that he overlooked the fact that PDF synchronization is
   per document.  I admit that I also overlooked this for some time.  One
   possible reason: I think the WIki page at
   https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SyncTeX has this step mislabeled.  It says "
   Document > Settings > Output", which I mistook for
   LyX>Preferences>Output rather than Document>Settings>Formats.  If folks
   agree that the Wiki is mislabeled, I can correct this.  However, perhaps
   someone with working forward and reverse searching can create a formulaic
   write-up giving the steps necessary to setup LyX from a fresh install and a
   document without synchronization enabled.  It would be helpful (to me, at
   least) if the write-up gave absolute paths/caveats for non-standard LyX and
   Skim (or other viewer) locations.

The steps I used to configure the two applications are as follows (note
that I totally removed LyX 2.3.0rc2 and Skim.app and the associated
preferences (~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 and
~/Library/Preferences/net.sourceforge.skim-app*) before proceeding.  Please
let me know what step is incorrect or missing to get synchronization /
forward search working.

   1. Install LyX 2.3.0rc2 from UCSD mirror (
   
ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg)
   to /Applications/LyX.app. Note that I ultimately want to *not* have LyX in
   /Applications because I cannot have it so at my office.
   2. Install Skim via `brew cask install skim` to /Applications/Skim.app
   (version 1.4.32 installed).  Note that I ultimately want to *not* have
   Skim in /Applications because I cannot have it so at my office.
   3. Launch LyX for the first time to initiate first-time configure.  Quit.
   4. Launch LyX and create a lengthy document.  I used the attached, with
   10 sections each with 5 loren ipsum paragraphs explicitly included in each
   section.
   5. Set LyX>Preferences>Output>General>PDF Command to
   "/Applications/Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/displayline $$n $$o $$t"
   (default for Skim). Apply.
   6. Set LyX>Preferences>File Handling>File Formats>Format: PDF (pdflatex)
   Viewer> Custom with "open -a Skim.app $$i". Apply. Save.
   7. Set Document>Settings>Formats>Synchronize with output>Checked. OK.
   Save document.
   8. Preview with eyeballs.  Skim opens with the document at the beginning.
   9. Set Skim>Preferences>Sync>Preset: LyX. Close preferences with red
   circle/"x" (there is no save, apply, etc.).
   10. Quit LyX and Skim.
   11. Relaunch LyX, reopen skim_test.lyx, preview with eyeballs. Skim
   opens it at the beginning of the document regardless of where my cursor in
   LyX is. However, reverse search (command-shift-click seeks LyX to the
   clicked element, within reason).

Any thoughts are appreciated.  I've worked for some time without this
capability, but I can certainly appreciate how it would be helpful.

Thanks,
Joel

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