Am 11.09.2017 um 20:55 schrieb Pavel Sanda <sa...@lyx.org>:
> 
> Stephan Witt wrote:
>>> If it's not easily possible we should at least make clear to newcomers that 
>>> lyx without tex & imagemagick will have lot of problems.
>> 
>> LyX without TeX is a problem. This can be solved by a newcomer by installing 
>> MacTeX. Easy.
>> LyX without ImageMagick shouldn???t be a problem for a user who is working 
>> with PNG, EPS and PDF images only, IMHO.
>> 
>> To install ImageMagick on a Mac you have to install Xcode and MacPorts (or 
>> HoweBrew) and use the terminal to get a running ImageMagick.
>> 
>> What is the fundamental problem I have without ImageMagick? What graphics 
>> capabilities of LyX do you refer to?
> 
> We use convert pretty much as default except when explicit converter is 
> defined so besides few formats and precisely selected output routes you'll 
> get in troubles.
> 
> I doubt even your PNG/EPS/PDF selection will be without problems. If I insert 
> png image and select postscript as output format will it work?
> Will html generation work? Will instant preview work? (didn't check, these 
> just randomly pop in my mind).

HTML generation works.
With LyXHTML I’m not sure - my systems tries to open it in iPhone simulator :) 
PDF with pdflatex works.
PDF with XeTeX works.
DVI doesn’t work - missing PNG to EPS converter. (Perhaps possible to solve 
with existing command line tool „sips“.)
OpenDocument (texht) works.
PDF (dvipdfm) doesn’t work (of course).
PDF (LuaTeX) works.
Postscript doesn’t work - missing PNG to EPS converter.
Instant preview works.

I think the most requested format is PDF - this works in various ways.
HTML and OpenDocument is working too.
Not bad, IMHO.

> Isn't it possible just to grab some statically linked convert and push it 
> into dmg package…?

Perhaps, I didn’t try it because I see it as a last resort. I don’t want to 
provide binaries grabbed from somewhere and I even don’t know if it works.

Even the route of providing self-made utilities isn’t attractive. We have to 
provide bug-fixes for them, IMO. This is not good.

Stephan

> Anyway my point was that current svgz info-inset problem is not likely big 
> deal or even showstopper because my guess is that bunch of other lyx 
> documents we distribute won't compile for various output formats without 
> convert.

Yes, that’s the problem exactly.

BTW, I didn’t say the installation of ImageMagick is useless. My point is: LyX 
shouldn’t present error messages on preview of the documentation as a 
PDF-document. That’s why I’m trying to establish a conversion path from 
LyX+SVG-icons to PDF-output via PNG. I don’t know how to do this. I suspect 
convertDefault.py should simply be avoided if there is no usable „convert“ or 
„magick“ program is available.

Stephan

> But its guess, I did not spent time to investigate.
> 
> Pavel

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