Am 23.08.2017 um 09:47 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien <jeanpierre.chret...@free.fr>: > > Le 14/08/2017 à 09:43, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit : > >> A French user complains sadly about a couple of problems with LyX (first >> experience). > > Thanks for your answers, here is a summary.
Hi Jean-Pierre, thank you for the summary. >> His problems: >> 1) opening splash.lyx, gets a message >> >> No information for converting svgz format files to pdf6.\n >> Define a converter in the preferences. >> > > If a MacOS user has not inskscape nor librsvg installed, he will get this in > splash.lyx but also in the manuals (e.g. UserGuide where there are a lot of > similar icons in the text). This is not a good welcome page for fresh users. > > Solutions: > 1/ remove the image in splash.lyx. Welcome is better, but the problem will > reappear soon when the manuals are navigated. > 2/ leave the image as a warning of further problems and add a note for Mac > Users to give a hint about librsvg installation, like > > http://macappstore.org/librsvg/ Personally, I think its weird to refer to additional software to read the user guide of LyX. We’re using Qt5 on Mac with included SVG plugin and it’s possible to present the SVG images as toolbar icons. It should be possible to convert the SVGZ files without another tool chain. The toolbox is already there. > 3/ include rsvg-convert in the mac OS LyX bundle. This is not easy as the tool has many dependencies. I’ve build it from source to give it a try. The dependency list is long, one library I’d accept but it references 11 additional Gnome libraries: ========================= $ otool -L rsvg-convert rsvg-convert: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation (compatibility version 150.0.0, current version 1259.11.0) /usr/local/lib/librsvg-2.2.dylib (compatibility version 43.0.0, current version 43.18.0) /opt/local/lib/libpng16.16.dylib (compatibility version 47.0.0, current version 47.0.0) /opt/local/lib/libcroco-0.6.3.dylib (compatibility version 4.0.0, current version 4.1.0) /opt/local/lib/libxml2.2.dylib (compatibility version 12.0.0, current version 12.4.0) /opt/local/lib/libgio-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 5201.0.0, current version 5201.3.0) /opt/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 3601.0.0, current version 3601.6.0) /opt/local/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 4001.0.0, current version 4001.6.0) /opt/local/lib/libpango-1.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 4001.0.0, current version 4001.6.0) /opt/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 5201.0.0, current version 5201.3.0) /opt/local/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility version 5201.0.0, current version 5201.3.0) /opt/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.5.0) /opt/local/lib/libcairo.2.dylib (compatibility version 11403.0.0, current version 11403.10.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1226.10.1) ========================= > For 2.3.0, 2/ seems best unless Stephan can manage 3/ > For 2.2.x, 2/ seems best either. > > As far as other systems are concerned: > * with linux, conversion is made either by qt5 (libqt5svg5), or by > rsvg-convert (librsvg2-bin) or inkscape. Can all of these be missing > (with Debian, libqt5svg5 is a lyx dependency so the answer is no)? > * with Windows, is librsvg bundled with the Windows installer, Uwe? > Can qt5 perform the conversion? I think, yes. But both libraries - Qt5 and librsvg - don’t implement the full SVG-standard. >> 2) Opening the Tutorial, section 2.1, he fiddles about a lot to find the >> installation folder where are the examples, As he does not find it in the Mac >> directories, he finally opens the lyx package and uncompresses it in a local >> place. > > This is a long term issue on macOS and maybe on Windows. > 1/ On MacOS and Windows there is no 'Examples button' in the File>Open dialog > 2/ on MacOS, the LyX bundle cannot be navigated with File>Open (greyed out) > > The only current solution to access the examples folders is a symlink created > by the user. It can also be created at runtime in a similar manner as what > was done for the templates folder (at e4fada8c/lyxgit) or by the creation of > a specific LFUN. > > <cite> > On 08/14/2017 09:08 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: >> >> Another option I’d like to propose would be a dedicated LFUN for opening >> the example file <filename.lyx> to be opened like the help files which >> can be used to point the file open dialog to the system examples folder >> when fired without argument. This LFUN may be bound to a special >> „Open Example...“ menu item. Perhaps a special one on Mac or Windows… > </cite> > > Adding the example files to be accessed from the Help menu like the specific > manuals has also been proposed. > > For 2.3.0 (and 2.2.x), the best seems to add a note to MacOS users in section > 2.1 of the Tutorial (section where it is suggested to play with > example_raw.lyx and example_lyxified.lyx), explaining how to create the > symlink or copy the files in a navigable location, e.g. > ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.0/examples/ > (see ticket #9301). Unless of course a symlink can be added in the code… This would be easy. Adding another symlink makes sense if one opens the example file like a template. Stephan > Uwe, what is the status of the access to the example folders on Windows? > >> >> 3) Trying another document class, he selects Docbook (not a good choice for a >> beginner IMHO). And when he wants to open it, this triggers the firefox of >> his >> windows virtual box. Then he goes to Tools>Preferences>Converters and is >> quite >> sarcastic about the dialog window about LyXHTML, which he does not >> understand. >> It's a bit curious in fact (no viewer defined), see attached. > > Dr Eberhard Lisse has a similar Virtual box installed and has no problems, I > think that the user has a problem with his setup. > > I can take care of a note in splash.lyx. > > -- > Jean-Pierre > > >
