Am 12.04.2017 um 17:51 schrieb mn <mno...@gmx.net>:
> 
> On 12.04.17 16:13, Stephan Witt wrote:
>>>>>>>> What are some of the present bugs / missing features you're
>>>>>>>> referring to? I wonder if some workarounds are available...
>>>>> - that apparently almost nobody was interested in reducing the filesize
>>>>> of the shipped images.
>>> 

…

> 
>>> PNG could and should be recompressed right now, in git. It's lossless
>>> and the final visible image is just identical. They remain editable
>>> (since this was a concern a while ago)
> 
>> We are talking about 268 files with 1141222 bytes.
> 
> Which can be stored and transmitted more efficiently for almost no cost.
> And that cost is a one time effort.
> (repeated at shipping time, for svg).

SVGs are already compressed. What procedure do you propose at shipping time?

> 
>>> SVGs lose (some of) the editing capability, so maybe that needs to be
>>> done only for shipping pictures/icons not those "originals" in the dev-tree.
>>> For SVGs it is precisely the one step before copying them onto the dmg
>>> where I see the reduction to be placed best.
>> 
>> I don’t understand - the SVGs are in fact svgz files… except one clipart 
>> file.
> 
> Their internal structure can be cleaned up and the z-level increased.
> See my post from October last year.

Perhaps, this is not my turn. I read about it and it’s some work I don’t know 
how
to do. I’ll left this as an exercise for others.

> 
>>> - that the download and installation size of LyX is generally really huge
>>>> Yes, 120 MByte.
>>>> Leaving out the spell checker dictionaries will save approximately 
>>>> 200 MByte on your disk resp. 50 MByte for the disk image.
> 
>>>>> -- because it ships all language files at once
>>>>> (this is slightly different with e.g. LibreOffice)
> 
>>>> This is because there is no language add-on package download concept for 
>>>> LyX.
>>>> But it may be an option to provide a „pure“ LyX-package for those ones 
>>>> using
>>>> native spell checker only.
> 
>>> I second that.
>>> Now I do not know how this is handled on Windows, but I strongly prefer
>>> an English only build that has an easy way to extend it with language
>>> capabilities.
> 
>> There is no coincidence with Windows here.
>>> But I need it just for document languages not the UI.
>> This is a matter of your TeX installation.
> 
> What I meant there: spellchecking and the like from within in LyX.
> And I do not know how all that is handled on windows.

Again, we’re talking about Mac packaging. Not Windows and not Linux.
 
> On linux sometimes there are independently installable language packages.
> Having that kind of support, to download and extend the languages to be
> worked with from within the app would be the most convenient.

As I said already - there is no concept for doing this in a safe and clean 
way with the LyX application. Outside the application I don’t know of some
concept for this on Mac. We’re not talking about package managers and the
like. LyX is and should stay a self-contained package, IMO.

…

>>>> 
>>>> I don’t think there are any superfluous Qt frameworks bundled. But I’ll
>>>> check that. In any case I’m not sure it makes a big difference.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> As I said, I am neither sure they are superfluous nor convinced LyX
>>> needs e.g. multimedia-frameworks or DBus-support on OS X.
>> 
>> The internal dependencies of Qt I cannot change. You’re speculating here.
>> 
> 
> Hm, yeah. As I said. But speculating with reason:
> 
> Deleting most of the qt-plugins, and frameworks, like those I mentioned
> and audio and dbus and so on: LyX launches, works, does everything I
> routinely do.
> 
> Now I thought it maybe that I missed some usage scenario (like
> lyx-server and the like) that I just didn't use.

Let’s see how it goes.

Stephan

> 
> But this way, I doubt if they are really all necessary.
> If I delete GUI-framework or image-plugins, then it's in trouble, but
> playlist-support, camera, gestures?

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