On 2015-11-25, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Am 25.11.2015 um 09:32 schrieb Guenter Milde:

Dear Uwe,

thanks for the response, I think we are on a good way.

>>> On which system there is no Latin Modern?

>> While they are in every TeX distribution, they are not necessarily in every
>> TeX *installation*.

> Do you know a LyX user wh does not use a TeX distribution? 

> ... We can safely concentrate on the distributions. Since Latin Modern 
> is part of all, we can assume it to be there.

No. Many users (including myself) don't use a *complete* TeX distribution and
many users don't use an automatic download of missing files (including all
TeXLive users, as this is a special MikTeX feature).

In my Debian-packaged TeXLive, Latin Modern is *recommended* but not
*required*. A user installs LyX with minimal requirements will not
have it.

I know this is a rare case but if you want to be sure a font is installed
on every site, you are restricted to the set of "required" fonts: 7-bit
CM and the common PostScript fonts in
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/required/psnfss


>> If you want to keep Latin Modern for the manuals (at least for the
>> "advanced" ones), we have the alternatives:

>> a) remove the preamble code loading "lmodern.sty" and
>>     select Latin Modern in the document settings

>>     +1 clean, simple, good practice

>>     -1 needs agreement from other developers, as manuals may no longer
>>        compile on a minimal installation.

> I vote for this and I would even do this for LyX 2.2.0 if nobody has a 
> good argument against this.

Manuals requiring packages outside the required¹ set can IMO 
use LModern via the GUI setting.

However, for 2.2.0 this would require approvement by our release manager.

¹ http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/required


...


IMO, LM should not be required for the "simple" manuals.

We could use preamble code optionally setting Latin Modern
or use PSNFSS fonts via the GUI.

> Since years also the Intro and Tutorial is using Latin Modern. Only 
> splash does not use it.

However, they use it "optionally" via preamble code. And compiling splash
takes ages because first the bitmap fonts need to be generated.

I prefer PSNFSS fonts for simple manuals (splash, Intro, Tutorial). 

The Development guide says:

  The different files use different formatting styles. That is OK and has
  historic reasons nobody fully know ;-).

so it should be OK if they have also different fonts when printed...

Please try, e.g., Palatino, Helvetica, Courier and tell about problems.


Thanks,

Günter

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