Am Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2015 um 11:22:31, schrieb Scott Kostyshak
<skost...@lyx.org>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:59:05AM +0000, Guenter Milde wrote:
> > On 2015-10-26, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:17:15AM +0100, Georg Baum wrote:
> > >> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> >
> > >> > -% increase link area for cross-references and autoname them,
> > >> > -\AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1}}}}
> > >> > -\addto\extrasfrench{%
> > >> > - \renewcommand*{\equationautorefname}[1]{}%
> > >> > - \renewcommand{\sectionautorefname}{sec.\negthinspace}%
> > >> > - \renewcommand{\subsectionautorefname}{sec.\negthinspace}%
> > >> > - \renewcommand{\subsubsectionautorefname}{sec.\negthinspace}%
> > >> > +\@ifpackageloaded{babel}{
> > >> > + % increase link area for cross-references and autoname them,
> > >> > + \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1}}}}
> > >> > + \addto\extrasfrench{%
> > >> > + \renewcommand*{\equationautorefname}[1]{}%
> > >> > + \renewcommand{\sectionautorefname}{sec.\negthinspace}%
> > >> > + \renewcommand{\subsectionautorefname}{sec.\negthinspace}%
> > >> > + \renewcommand{\subsubsectionautorefname}{sec.\negthinspace}%
> > >> > + }
> > >> > }
> >
> > ...
> >
> > >> If some features of a document are implemented in a babel specific way
> > >> (even if the feature would in theory not need babel), then we should
> > >> rather declare that explicitly like in 78c60de9bb IMHO, than to
> > >> pretend that polyglossia can be used, but silently change the output.
> >
> > > Ah this is a good point. Dang it. In this case I think it makes even
> > > more sense now to remove the babel-specific preamble code, which there
> > > seems to be support for from others as well.
> >
> > In this case, I would rather not remove the code but change it to be usable
> > without babel:
> >
> > * if there is only one language in the document (or if the autrefname can be
> > the same in all used languages), do the (r)definitions directly:
> >
> > % increase link area for cross-references and autoname them,
> > \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1}}}}
> > \renewcommand*{\equationautorefname}[1]{}%
> > \renewcommand{\sectionautorefname}{sec.~}%
> > \renewcommand{\subsectionautorefname}{sec.~}%
> > \renewcommand{\subsubsectionautorefname}{sec.~}%
> >
> > (or in the \AtBeginDocument, if this works better).
> >
> > * if there is more than one language and autoreferencenames must be language
> > speecific, define them for both, babel and polyglossia.
> >
> > Proof of concept:
> >
> > % increase link area for cross-references and autoname them,
> > \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1}}}}
> > \renewcommand*{\equationautorefname}[1]{}%
> > \@ifpackageloaded{babel}{
> > \addto\extrasfrench{%
> > \renewcommand{\sectionautorefname}{sec.~}%
> > % ...
> > }
> > \addto\extrasgerman{%
> > \renewcommand{\sectionautorefname}{Abschnitt~}%
> > % ...
> > }
> > }
> > \@ifpackageloaded{polyglossia}{
> > \addto\captionsfrench{%
> > \renewcommand{\sectionautorefname}{sec.~}%
> > % ...
> > }
> > \addto\captionsgerman{%
> > \renewcommand{\sectionautorefname}{Abschnitt~}%
> > % ...
> > }
> > }
> >
> > (Not tested with polyglossia. The polyglossia manual recommends using
> > \gappto from the etoolbox package but says \addto is also available.)
> >
> > > I would prefer to leave the babel conditional in because of my reason
> > > above, until we come to a decision and action on whether the
> > > babel-specific code should be removed (e.g. fixing #9817?). That said, I
> > > do understand that two wrongs doesn't make a right so let me know if you
> > > believe strongly that I should revert.
> >
> > I believe it would be better to suspend testing the problematic files
> > with "non-TeX fonts" until the issues are solved.
>
> Ideally code changes would not be committed before broken tests are
> fixed or the regressions caused by the commits are fixed. That should
> all be done in one commit.
> >
> > Fixing problems in the Manuals found by automatic testing is a good thing.
> > Modifying the Manuals "somehow" just to please automatic testing is not.
>
> I agree. I think that in most cases fixing the manuals to compile to
> multiple formats improves the documents and forces us to have clean
> preamble code.
>
> Scott
We should also create a directory containing some uncompilable lyx-files which
are supposed
to compile in the future due to corrected handling in lyx.
How about "development/attic/testdocs"?
They would be the first to test with newly fixed lyx. If some of them compile,
they can be removed.
Kornel
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