2015-09-18 2:37 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Munch <g...@lyx.org>:

> Yes this is the purpose of 94e992c5: not only the subfloats appear at
> level 1 in the outliner, but they also appear under the correct float (this
> required to set up some new machinery). I am puzzled that you say that the
> outliner does not show this.
>

To be honest I did not test the outliner but judged based on the commit
comment. I tested now and the outliner works as expected (and is much
improved by this commit).


>
> And in fact, I'd also like to navigate there directly.  > > Navigation
>> would be analoguous to sections that have subsections,
>>
> so >  this seems just right to me. > >> Do you have a situation in mind
> where having the 3rd-level menu >> would gain substantially more time than
> just clicking the 2nd-level >> element? > > Time is not everything. I think
> the extra time investment is not too >  big a burden.
> Regarding the navigation menu, the possibility of going through only 2
> menus instead of 3 makes a big difference in UI and time is only one aspect
> of the increased convenience. I'd take it as soon as there's the
> possibility. My point about which you seem to disagree is that there's such
> a possibility, because a subfloat is different from a subsection in that a
> subfloat is always close to the beginning of its float. Not showing the
> subfloats in the navigation menu is a deliberate choice that seems smart to
> me given the context.
>
> Since the difference appears to be a matter of taste, has anybody an
> opinion on this?
>

My opinion is that the navigation menu should display the same structure
than the outliner.


>
> >> Note that LyX is also improved in the following respect: the >>
>>
> Figure entry no longer goes to the caption but goes to the start of >> the
> figure when clicking. So in case captions are at the bottom of >> the
> figure we now directly see the first subfigures. > > It is disputable
> whether this is an improvement. It depends on > whether you use the
> outliner in order to  edit the caption (where you > need an extra click
> now) or the figure (where the situation did not > really change; you still
> need to click the figure/into the table if > you want to edit it).
>
> Actually it would make sense to show the float, but put the cursor inside
> the caption. For instance if the caption is at the bottom of the float, the
> screen would be filled with the bottom part of the float and the cursor
> would be at the beginning of the caption, near the bottom of the screen. I
> still have to see how to achieve this (maybe issuing two move commands is
> enough). But, note that it is a "List of Figures" before being a "List of
> Figure captions". Anybody finds this proposal worth the small investment?
>

Me, obviously.

Jürgen


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