On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Rainer M. Krug <rai...@krugs.de> wrote:
> Liviu Andronic <landronim...@gmail.com> writes: > > > Dear Daniel, > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Daniel Vainsencher > > <daniel.vainsenc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Please CC me on answers. > >> > >> I often collaborate with people who (still) prefer LaTeX, and also > submit > >> papers to conferences that make it easy to submit latex via > >> style/class/sample.tex files. This makes it important to be able to > work in > >> LyX, but debug/modify in latex, then continue working in LyX. > >> > > I would strongly agree with this. Round-tripping LyX <--> LaTeX > > documents is one of the long-term goals of LyX. And in my > > understanding this is something that lies in the realm of achievable. > > What we need is, mostly, for a devel or student to show more love to > > the tex2lyx conversion routines. > > > > > >> It would probably be difficult to preserve latex source formatting etc, > and > >> I am not proposing that; I am assuming the main source of content is > LyX. > >> > >> Two particular features would make this easier: > >> > >> - Math-macros, if turned into \global\long\def, should be turned back so > >> LyX's beautiful visual editing is restored (can keep the math-macro def > in a > >> comment in the latex version and restore it). > >> BTW, when does a math-macro become a \newcommand vs \global\long\def? > >> > >> - Automatically generate styles for environments defined in imported > >> documents. For example if the imported latex has a keywords environment, > >> that should not suddenly become ERT in LyX. > >> This should allow me to start from the conference sample file, import it > >> into LyX, and obtain a first class lyx environment. > >> > > Both your suggestions look useful, although I'm wondering how > > achievable is the 2nd one. I'd love to hear what established devels > > think of this. > > > > Either way, I think this is a project worthy for GSoC and if you can > > come up with a suitably worded project proposal feel free to place it > > here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SummerOfCode2013Ideas (and let us know > > on lyx-devel). This would greatly increase the chances of a student > > picking it up. And if we have no student for such a project this year, > > we should certainly consider it for subsequent GSoC summers. > > While we are talking about roundtrip - there is still the dreaded issue > of MS Word (docx) roundtrip. > > There is again and again the discussion coming up of exporting to docx > and importing docx, and (especially in the humanities as I gather from > these discussions) many journals only accept doc / docx for submission. > > Absolutely! A minimum level of compatibility with MS Word (or openOffice) would be a great boon to LyX. Actually, I think roundtripping, while desirable is probably out of reach for even moderately complex documents. What is really needed is a decent LyX --> doc export filter, and precisely for the reasons Rainer mentioned: most publishers in the humanities accept .doc only. Ideally, an export filter to doc should preserve semantically relevant formatting (emphasis, footnotes, refs, cross-ref, and little else) and discard everything else. Stefano > Not only the journals, but the use of LateX and LyX is not that > widespread (as it should be!) in academia in general (some natural > science disciplines excluded). > > So to make co-operation with MS Word users possible, an improved export > to docx and round trip would be very useful. > > Also, I would assume that this feature would make LyX much > more widely used. > > Cheers, > > Rainer > > > > > > Regards , > > Liviu > > > -- > Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation > Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) > > Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology > Stellenbosch University > South Africa > > Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 > Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 > Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 > > Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 > > email: rai...@krugs.de > > Skype: RMkrug > -- __________________________________________________ Stefano Franchi Associate Research Professor Department of Hispanic Studies Ph: +1 (979) 845-2125 Texas A&M University Fax: +1 (979) 845-6421 College Station, Texas, USA stef...@tamu.edu http://stefano.cleinias.org
