Op 27-6-2012 23:51, Uwe Stöhr schreef:
Am 27.06.2012 10:21, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:
Op 27-6-2012 2:56, Uwe Stöhr schreef:
I now finished the new Windows installer. It is the merge of my old
one and Joost's.
It still doesn't comply to my first demand, so I still won't accept
it. I don't understand why I
have to say this over and over again.
What is your complain about? We once decided to merge the installers
and all agreed. I invested a lot of work and also published several
test releases.
Yes, but you somehow don't seem to listen to the feedback on your test
releases.
If I remember your only remaining complain was that I set MiKTeX to
install missing packages silently. I several times explained in detail
why this is necessary. I accept that you are an expert in many fields
but the average user is not. We cannot bother average users with
dialogs where he has to made about 50 times a decision.
Who is speaking about 50 decisions ? All I asked for was an option to
surpass this step. I find it more distracting that I get a messagebox
forcing me to choose whether I want to update MikTeX or not (and after
that updating MikTeX failed).
The installer is the first thing a new user sees and he cannot know
anything at this state. I don't get why you will not accept that the
average user doesn't know what a package is and that he also don't
need to know.
(You know that you can any time later rest the settings you prefer.)
I did never say I do not accept this, because the current installer has
the same behaviour.
In my opinion the installer is ready and now also stable to become the
official one. So let's do it now.
I think it is not ready yet.
Btw. I have added some new files and would add them t the dependency
package. I want upload the new one to our FTP server but don't know
who can put it then to the correct location.
The dependency package is on sourceforge, not on our FTP.
I believe you're writing ImageMagick entries in the registry
yourself. Why ?
When installing IM, it writes registry values to HKLM. IM needs
registry values to determine where to find its modules. Now it is
possible to use also HKCU and so it can be used also when not
installed with admin privileges.
You can repeat over and over again that IM needs registry values, but
that doesn't help me. According to the website of ImageMagick: "Portable
Win32 static at 16 bits-per-pixel. Just copy to your host and run (no
installer, no Windows registry entries)."
This clearly tells me you're wrong that IM needs registry values in
either HKLM or HKCU.
The reason why I don't accept this installer now is that:
- the installer installs LyX in a folder called: LyX 2.0.4 instead of
LyX20 as the current official installer does. I really don't see a
single reason to change this behaviour;
- this means that you have to manually uninstall the previous version
each time;
- this also means that you have to manually uninstall the previous
version _before_ installing the new version;
- you forced this upon the user by disallowing to install LyX when a
version of LyX is already installed;
- this prevents the user from installing a new version even if it does
not have rights to uninstall the previous one;
- this does not work with installations made by the current official
installer;
- you still insist on installing the LyX shortcut in a subfolder in the
start menu. Your reply that this was much easier if you want to manually
reorder the start menu, but this is totally non-sense;
- you fiercely protest against an option to not install all exotic
MikTeX packages, but you do think it is ok to prompt a message box to
the user forcing him to choose whether to update MikTeX.
This time I didn't investigate further yet.
Vincent
