On 02/28/2012 02:54 PM, Pascal Fischer wrote:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Richard Heck<rgh...@comcast.net> wrote:
On 02/26/2012 05:49 PM, Pascal Fischer wrote:
In the document-settings there should be an option, where you can
choose where the page-numbers are displayed (on top / on bottom - at
margin / at middle). And an option to not showing it on the first
page.
We could have this sort of option, in principle, and some of the others you
mention, but there is actually a reason we do not. This sort of thing is
meant to be controlled by the document class, which is what decides what the
"plain" page style will look like. The page number is simply part of the
page header, or footer, and if you choose the "headings" style then you will
get something different.
This sort of thing can be modified, of course. (Everything can be modified.)
But this too is the sort of thing that ought to be done in a way that is
re-usable. In this case, you can use the "fancy" page style and then set the
headers any way you wish, using the commands from fancyhdr in your preamble
or in style file (or LyX module).
LyX and LaTeX tend not to think in a "one-off" sort of way.
Richard
I understand what you mean and totally agree with the concept of
WYSISY M instead of WYSIWY G. And there don't have to be a LyX-dialog
for every tiny little thing, that could be tweaked by LaTeX. But that
the page-numbers are in the corner instead of the middle is a very
essential feature. E.g. at my university (and as far as I know in most
German universities) it is a must. And even if I use "Fancy" page
style the pagination is in the middle and you have to do some
handwork.
LyX is a great tool for those who are not able or not want to write
LaTeX directly. But if they have to find out what to write in the
preamble or work with style-files, that's not very user-friendly. To
mention it again: that the pagination is in the corner instead of the
middle is no sophisticated thing for few people, but it is essential
for many people. So this should be possible as user-friendly with a
dialog like setting for page-margins, line spacing and those other
things in dialogs. All these settings are basic settings that you have
to set like your university wants it.
I understand, and I suppose we could have a little checkbox and issue
all the fancyhdr commands necessary to get the page number into
different places. But then people will complain that the section names,
or whatever, are now missing from the header. There isn't any general
way to *move* the page number without affecting other aspects of the
headers and footers, since we do not know, in general, what the headers
and footers were previously like.
Here again, this kind of thing is meant to be controlled by the document
class. If it's as common as you say to need a certain format, then
someone should write a (very simple) document class to format things
that way. Or a LyX module.
The other issue here is "give a man a fish" vs "teach him how to fish".
I'd rather teach people how to fish. It's not hard to do the sort of
thing you describe, and the way to do it is described in some detail in
one of the manuals.
Richard
