On 10/25/2010 01:51 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
On 10/25/2010 03:52 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
On 10/24/2010 07:53 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
On 10/24/2010 12:31 PM, David Whetstone wrote:
Hi, I'm new here. I only recently joined this list. I've recently acquired an iPad, and found myself wanting to be able to take notes with embedded equations and such. AFAICT, no such app yet exists.

Then I thought about LyX. Even if one was not able to compile a latex document on the ipad, LyX's editing features could still be very useful. So my question is, how feasible is this?

I've spent the last couple of weeks on an exploratory mission - to see how hard it would be to build LyX for the iPad. I've gotten as far as getting a clean build. Completely non-functional, of course. Much in front-end and support is just stubbed out. But it's a start.

I ask this question now because I've noticed recent comments to the effect of removing the GUI agnosticism that exists in the LyX codebase. It's this agnosticism that gave me the idea that it just might be possible.

I realize it will be a lot of work. But I think LyX for iPad could occupy a useful niche in the iPad appverse. So tell me, am I wasting my time?

Well, as you presumably know, LyX depends pretty heavily upon Qt, both in the frontend and in support. Since Qt does not run on the iPad, you'd have to replace all of that. This is a massive undertaking. Some years ago, there was an attempt to produce a Gtk frontend for LyX. This was at a time when the core-gui stuff was much less entangled than it is now.

This is not true. The core and gui stuff was very much more entangled at this time than it is now... lots of glue glue code everywhere. Nowadays, all you have to do is to rewrite frontend/qt4. QtCore is also used in src/support/ but the project that listed below shows that this is not a problem. Still, having a ported QtGui is the much easier path of course.

I could be wrong, but I think we now have much more application logic in the Gui* classes then we did before the removal of all the Controller* classes. Perhaps alot of that could just be copied over, but it is still more work.

Well, most of the controller code was useless indirection and complication (most of the controller code was necessitating almost the same amount of code in the gui implementation). So I am ready to bet that, at feature equality, we actually have no more code than in the past. But of course this is difficult to measure now that we have so much more gui features... thanks to the controller stuff removal.

Just adding food to a pretty useless flamewar :-P

I grant you though that we could (and should) put back some code into the core after the transfer of the GUI related lfuns to the frontend. This still needs to be done.

Abdel.

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