"Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Although you might object fiercely, 

Fiercely is probably an overstatement :)

> I would like to state that Mac users and Windows users all have the
> same point of view in this. To see this, realize that the motivation
> for the current implementation of the item is to enable Mac users to
> close the last window, but to make sure not to quit the application.
> If we now define this as the exact meaning of "Close Window", then
> Windows users (and others) use the item in exactly the same way
> until there is only one window left. 

The best is probably to look at what other applications do.

- firefox: File>Close (Ctrl-w) closes tabs and then windows as needed,
  until nothing remain (then is exits on windows/linux but not on
  mac). There is no separate notion of 'close window'

- openoffice (on linux): there is a file>close (without shortcut) that
  is still enabled when there is no file. Ctrl-w is bound to
  window>close which closes the current window unless this is the last
  one. In this case, it closes the documents and keeps the empty
  window. The next Ctrl-w will quit openoffice.

- word 2003 (winxp): there is a file>close and no window>close (but
  there is a Ctrl-w binding, which seems to do that). When a
  window is not the last, File>close will close it on last document of
  the window. When it is the last, an empty window remains and
  File>close is disabled. With Ctrl-w, the window is made empty when
  closing last document, and then ctrl-w is disabled. I guess this is
  the behaviour you are referring to.

I guess that I prefer the openoffice behaviour for windows. This
allows to close the application completely via successive Ctrl-w, but
the is no surprise since one sees the empty application before quitting.

JMarc

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