Hi Bo, thanks for CC:ing me - I'd completely missed this thread - I don't
have time to _read_ all messages but I try to check all _subjects_.
Anyway, I've now read the thread using gmane, an I'll list some of the
issues and my comments below. That might of course provoke further
discussion, but we should probably keep that to separate threads.
Apologies for the long post in advance... And also, apologies for any
feelings I hurt by getting into the discussion in such a late stage. There
are no personal attacks indended whatsover in my text below. (Remember,
today is not Friday:-)
!!! Should the AltInstaller use a special toolbar?
I think not. There are alternatives, e.g. pointing users to instructions
to customize that for instance tell them how to install a separate
toolbar. These instructions would then benefit _all_ users...
!!! Bugzilla reports on the installers.
I agree with Bo that we should encourage users and developers to use
bugzilla. Is there anything today that makes this difficult?
Currently there's a single component:
windows-installer
that Uwe is the contact for.
* Should we have two separate components for the installers?
Perhaps add a component called:
Windows AltInstaller
* Is it possible to get CC:ed with issues related to these components by
default I'd like to be CC:ed for instance.
!!! Process of releasing a new version of the installer
Bo wrote:
> And I had hoped that Uwe release this installer in a *standard*
> way, i.e., ask JMarc to put the files on ftp.lyx.org, without a
> special announcement.
I agree that the installer files should be uploaded to ftp.lyx.org, but
that seems to have been an oversight on Uwe's behalf. However, I don't
understand if Bo thinks there shouldn't be an announcement for a new
installer?
!!! Closing of instaler issues on bugzilla
I can't say what the process should be for closing a report. On one hand I
understand the urge to close an issue quickly to get rid of it, but on the
other hand that can be considered rude by the reporter. (I'm speaking from
my own expierence, it's very discouraging to report something and then
have it discarded without any proper discussion).
So I suggest we try to discuss the issues first. If bugzilla would CC me
automatically on installer issues, it should be issue for me get
involved in the discussions.
This is all related to the development process for the installers. The
situation at the moment is far from ideal, with only one developer with
expert knowledge on each installer. There are several issues that need
to be discussed in depth here, but for the love of <deity> (even though
I'm not religous), let's postpone this discussion until after 1.5.0.
!!! Update/view PDF on Windows
Sigh, always a problematic issue it seems. I'm not familiar enough with
this topic, so I'll probably be blundering about here...
Anyway, regarding the resource usage of Joost's pdfview: I've looked at
the code and I agree with Joost that the resources used by this
application will be negligble. Arguing aginst using Joost's pdfview for
this reason doesn't hold any water for me.
We should perhaps discuss this in a fresh thread, there seems to be
several open questions here...
!!! Hosts for extra installer packages (e.g. dictionaries)
The status seems unclear... my take on it is the following:
* We should place them on at least two hosts
* One of the hosts should be ftp.lyx.org
* The installers should use the same hosts
* The second host must be accessible (for upload/maintenance)
by many developers
This also deserves a fresh thread...
!!! Functionality and components in the LyX end product
Discussion what the result will be of using the different installers is
something we do need to discuss. It'll be a difficult discussion though,
and I suggest we postpone this until after LyX 1.5.0 has been released.
In my opinion, this will be the most difficult issue to resolve when it
comes to merging the installers.
Best regards,
Christian
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Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
