Georg Baum wrote:

I don't share your pessimism, especially if we are to compare current SVN with the state of 1.4.0 when it was
released.

That is not a good comparison. 1.4.0 should not have been released in that
state, otherwise we would not have users still using 1.3.

Switching or not to 1.4 has *nothing* to do with the stability of 1.4.0. Users switched when they see something that fits the bill. The main problem of the 1.4 series is speed and I reckon this is mostly solved in 1.5. The only drawback of the poor stability of 1.4.0 is that users that were willing to switch have just waited for 1.4.1 or 1.4.2. And you know what? That's a very sane behaviour.

If we don't
regain the stability of 1.3 with 1.5.0 we will probably never recover from
the lost reputation.

Do you really believe that? Just look at the traffic on the user list. There is no such thing as a "lost reputation" in an open source project. Besides, I really don't care about people that thinks that way, and I reckon there's not many of this type anyway.


And maybe one reason for being pessimistic is because I know that I won't
have much time to participate in the bugfixing (I am glad if I can finish
the already promised fixes).

Another reason is that several people are discussing (and changing)
fundamental design principles of LyX

Are you kidding me? "fundamental design principles" and "LyX" do not fit very well together...


(e.g. the separation of frontend -
kernel via the lfun machinery), or doing some 'cleanup'. Now is definitely
not the time to even think about either of that.
Or political discussions like the place of debug.h. This eats a lot of time
with no outcome.

You are free to ignore the message, you are even free to _not_ read the messages. I can't understand in which way this is eating your time.

My time is mine and I believe that there is some outcome to interested developers: they actually benefits from the explanations given in these discussions. There is a life after 1.5.0.

Please Georg, try to restrain yourself from giving lessons. I only asked for a list of bugs.


And of course the fact that beta2 is not out yet is no good sign either.

Jose, what the f**k are you waiting for?

Abdel.

PS: for newcomers (mainly Richard and Bernhard), don't be shocked by the tone used here. This is about an old tradition which Georg is probably trying to relaunch (at least I hope that's the case). It's called the "no smiley" friday.

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