On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:06:11 +0100 Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Gerz wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Jean-Marc recently raised the question whether an inset is really the > > proper solution for captions. > > > [...] > > > > In any case, I think we should discuss this very soon, because a lot > > of files have changed due to the layout=>inset conversion. > A couple of questions: > 1.) Can a "caption inset" hold anything the old caption paragraph could > hold? > We writers do put strange things there sometimes. At least math > and font changes works well. > 2.) The reason for using an inset here? I know the age-old problem of > insert->float, then mistakenly insert the table in the caption. > This could be solved with the old system too, by: > a) Make the caption part obvious - a "caption:" label in front > b) and of course the cursor could start in an empty paragraph > in the float, instead of inside the caption. > I guess the reason for a inset is something different though. The > inset makes the caption more obvious, but the cursor still starts > inside it. > > The caption looks nice, I have nothing particular against it. > > Helge Hafting The way it should be is, that together with the caption inset, also a dummy graphic or tabular should be placed above/below it. And the relevant dialog popped up. After all, you first produce the thing itself, and only then the caption that goes with it. Under the old system, lots of inexperienced users got it wrong. It's a little harder to get it wrong now, but still the current system of inserting two blank paragraphs in the hope that the user will intuit by osmosis that that is where the graphic/tabular is supposed to go, is not really good ;-/ - Martin
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