Draciron wrote:
> Greetings...

greetings

> Also excuse my breach in ettiquete. I'm not a patient man :)

don't worry, neither are we (or me at least)

...

(i will try to answer some of your questions, where i can)

> First is the editor won't let me use the enter key to create my own 
> sense of formating. This is rather irritating. Very annoying 
> actually.

use word/openoffice/abiword? the basic philosophy behind lyx is to get rid of 
manual formatting and focus on content instead...

> Now I'm stuck in indent hell. Nor can I manually add a blank line 
> between paragraphs. I am sure there is a formating option to do this
> 
ctrl+enter or File->Paragraph Settings

> but I disagree with the default design.

what would you propose?

> I could not find a word count utility.

update to 1.4

> I do like the bookmarks concept. That is very important in a long 
> document.

we are glad you like them

> The built in Thesaurus is also a very essential and good idea.

great

> The Index feature is also well done.

i start to like your mail...

> Though I would love to use 2 different indexes, One a timeline index,
>  the other a conventional index.

i am not sure you might find a developer interested in your timeline
(more on this below)

> I very much like the notes feature that you have. That is very well 
> done.

thanks

> The built in revision control is a nice feature

thanks, it will be improved in 1.5

> Now to explain what led me to try LyX.

we're listening...

> When I write I don't know any more than the reader how the story 
> ends.

you write emails like that too?

> When I write it's like I open a window to a world and I'm doing my 
> best to keep up with the events as they happen and translate enough 
> shorthand to later go back and add in detail.

are you doing drugs?

> I can pump out hundreds of pages of these in week.

wow

> The detail side is tedious and takes months. In both cases a crucial
>  part of the process is the timeline. If the story does not involve a
>  very sequential series of events then it is quite easy to get out of
>  synch. This can of course be very disconcerting to the reader if not
>  corrected. Disconcerting to the author as well. The best example is
>  one from a series of books most Linux users have probably read. The
>  Lord of the Rings that is.

i must admit that i've read it, although i was young at the time (i
know, i know, it's no excuse...)

> Different authors use different means to deal with timelines. Some 
> cover thier walls in giant structures of notes.

(btw, lyx features a spellchecker)

> Most today use pen and paper, often creating folders which with many
>  artifacts besides the timeline. Few do this on a computer today 
> becuase there are few applications that do a very good timeline and 
> no software actually supports built in timelines.

it sounds really complicated and i can imagine that the market for this
is rather small. unless a developer needs this himself and finds a way of 
implementing it in a clean way, i don't see this feature coming to lyx very 
soon...

> I dispise VI and Emacs.

i understand, i am a notepad guy myself...

> I'm sorry I hate those two editors.

that's okay. just let it out...

> Anyway I use Kedit since it's lightweight, has all the basic editing
>  functions I need for my primary writing.

ah

> I use little in the way of text formating. [snip] [snip] [snip] 
> [snip] [snip]

sorry, but you (i) kinda got lost in the details there...

> For me I'd rather have a row of tabs much like done in Kate or 
> Firefox.

it looks like this is going to be added to 1.5 which is in the works now,

> These would be the chapters or other customizable means of 
> organization allowing you to group documents in one or more of the 
> tabs. Then each tab would have a tab for each document in that 
> chapter/group.

but no nested tabs i am afraid...

> For me the ideal writing system [snip] [snip]

> For example in my first novel, a work of Fantasy, there is a critical
>  battle that shapes the future of the hero of the story.

sounds like my first time on lyx-devel...

> I refered back to that battle many times in the course of the book.

and i kinda try to forget my battles

> The description of the village which the hero came from was another 
> couple pages I constantly refered back too as was encounters with 
> critical charactors, a 2nd battle much later in the book and the 
> meeting of his true love.

aha

> Formating is important and depending on what you are doing and who it
>  is for that can vary. Many places want plain text. Some places only 
> accept paper copies. Some will not even read formated text, some 
> expect the formating to already be in there. Some want your text 
> submited as Word files, some as plain text, some as Word Perfect, 
> some as HTML and a few will accept a few formats including RTF. The 
> lack of export support is a potential issue though I'm sure I could 
> export to text then import in Abiword or Open Office. Might even be 
> able to save the formating thorugh such an operation but the extra 
> step is a bit of a hassle. Is is as I said something I do very late 
> in the writing proccess.

mmm, there is the possibility to add converters to lyx, but i don't know 
whether there are any decent latex -> word converters around...

> Grammer checking is an essential part of writing.

indeed

> Without a grammer checker I'd have no chance of being published as 
> poor as mine is.

you shouldn't be so hard on yourself...

> Spell checking is another obvious tool.

lyx has a spellchecker (see above)

> Diction and style would be very helpfull.

and character invention, plot development and ...

> Because I split my story between many files global search and replace
>  would be really helpfull.

you mean in nested documents?

> What is just as crucial is built in version control.

i think there is some support for interaction with CVS or SVN but i have never 
tried that myself so can't inform you there

> [snip]
>
> Support for CUPs and GUI level printing would be really 
> helpfull.

maybe other can comment on this one..

> So a really nice feature of a writer's editor would be the ability to
>  something like ctr-d-c and fill out a charactor sheet with basics 
> and even include the ability to add pics and wave files for later 
> reference. While I myself wouldn't use the pics many authors would. A
>  graphical tree of the chars relationship to other chars would be 
> another really usefull feature. Very similer too or literally 
> geneological. Depends on the story and the charactors involved. If a 
> story spans generations then it's very usefull to have that 
> genological information in an easy to read format but that can be 
> added to or edited on the fly from within the writing. The way I'd 
> display the charactors would be on the right a toolbar similer to 
> Firefox's history bar. Names of the charactors would be there. A 
> click would bring up a popup with charactor details formating along 
> these lines.
> 
> Name age, traits (Eye color,hair(wavy,curly,etc, 
> color,length,),height,weight) ,relationship links Free for all text 
> description.
> 
> A place for a pic for those who use pics and even possibly a sound 
> file place for some authors who might use a wav file to describe 
> vocal charactoristics/accents. History drill down for the charactor.
>  Many writers will write little novelettes about each char describing
>  thier entire life story in shorthand.

i think this is more suited for a little database than lyx...

> Key thing is it is availible to read WHILE you type.

i like reading while it type too, although i know many secretaries who prefer 
blind typing...

> I am writing this not as a criticism of what is a well recomended 
> piece of software.

don't worry, we have a thick skin...

> I just know what I want myself as a writer. I also
>  have a writer's and a developers viewpoint. So I'm sharing that 
> perspective from as a writer.

thanks for that

> There are lots of other whiz bang features that 
> are far less essential. Being able to feed mp3 lists specific to a 
> project for example. When I'm writing Fantasy I want ancient and 
> mystical sounding tunes. I'll play David Arkenstone, Lorenna 
> McKennit, Pink Floyd, Days of the new, etc. If I'm writing an action 
> adventure I'll be listening to Metalica, Iron Maiden, Iommi's solo 
> stuff, Sabbath, etc. Niether of those are good when writing about 
> network security. Unless it's AGGRESSIVE network security. Then 
> Metalica might be good. The list could be fed to your player of 
> choice. Me it's XMMS.

i think lars will be really interested in coding this one up for you...

> Hopefully I've at least contributed a usefull idea or two. I'd really
>  like to see something along the lines of what I've described.

you might already find something of your needs in 1.4 and 1.5 may add some more

> Thanx for reading my rants.

you're welcome. 

good luck with the writing, and don't forget: sometimes less is more...

regards, edwin.

PS i might have forgotten some of these: ;-)
PPS add them where appropriate...

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