I just received the following message: [1] The electricity in the building (DUNN) will be off Dec 27-29 (M-W), maybe even the 30th, but probably not. Physical Plant is having to change out major switch. This means the users, devel and announce lists will be down for this period. Unfortunately, there is nothing I can do about this. There may be a possibilty to move the lists temporarily to another machine, but that seems to be more trouble than it is worth (visualize changing DNS entries and list manager config files and friends). While I will be in Hungary from Dec 19-Jan 7, I will try to make sure that apart from the above dates, all will be functional. Mate