On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 04:11:28PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Asger> It just holds a ParagraphInset?
> >> As I said earlier, I think it should hold either a plain box (in
> >> LR mode) or a parbox (with fixed width). It makes not sense to
> >> include a paragraph in a paragraph. And paragraphs should not be
> >> insets.
>
> Andre'> I actually see no point in handling paragraphs as "aliens".
> Andre'> True, there are some difficulties to represent every kind of
> Andre'> nested structure in LaTeX. But I think that should be an issue
> Andre'> of the "export to LaTeX" modul, not of LyX's internal
> Andre'> representation.
>
> Andre'> I see at least two reasons:
>
> Andre'> 1. LyX is *more* than a LaTeX frontend, so the excuse "LaTeX
> Andre'> can't cope with it (natively), so we can't have it in LyX"
> Andre'> might put off people who want do use LyX for HTML or maybe
> Andre'> even just for displaying things on screen.
Here is one of the main reasons, both in XML or DocBook, documents are more than
colections of paragraphs.
The only troublespot that I have now with the docbook export is how to deal with
this different paradigma.
Jean-Marc here it goes my example:
Docbook documents generaly have some metadocumentation in the paragraph, where you
specify the title, the authorgroup, the date, etc. The authorgroup is a new unit where
the authors are presented, each author is descrived by his/her first name, last name,
institution, etc.
As you see you here we have a nested structure, where there isn't such a concept as a
paragraph... I think that if we can extend that with no pain, the gain will be huge.
The XML support will be a piece of cake (and don't tell me you don't like cakes as I
will not belive you ;-)
> Andre'> 2. It is much more user friendly to say "Nest whatever you
> Andre'> (the user) want, we (LyX) figure out how to translate it into
> Andre'> LaTeX" -- and I think it is more WYSIWYM than telling the user
> Andre'> that (s)he cannot mean "nested paragraphs" because there are
> Andre'> no such beasts in LyX.
>
> OK, I'll bite: give me *one* example of nesting a paragraph into
> another paragraph where you will not need some container around it, to
> make precise the type (footnote), the size (parbox) or whatever.
As I have told above, the question is if we want LyX to be only LaTeX related...
> JMarc
