On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 04:54:08PM +1000, Mark Trickett wrote:
> Many thanks for your excellent posts, I am learning more. However I have
> Debian 10, nominally up to date, and it has Wayland with Gnome as the
> desktop. I am finding it very frustrating that I cannot copy and paste to
> and from the XTerm window.

Sorry, i don't use Wayland, have no idea what could be going wrong with this.

I can't see the point of Wayland.  TBH, it seems like the systemd of X - a
half-arsed crappy partial implementation of only the stuff that the devs
personally use because there's no way that anyone else could ever need
anything they don't use.

Also, CADT syndrome: never fix anything. toss out the old garbage, make way
for the shiny new garbage. Fixing bugs is boring. Reimplementing from scratch
every year or two is fun and exciting and it'll be perfect. For sure, this
time.

> I used to be able to do with earlier terminal emulation under the XWindows
> system. I used it to be able to copy text from a terminal into an email, and
> commands back from email, ensuring that I did not make typos.

That's weird. i'd be surprised if Wayland was actually incapable of doing
something as basic as copy and paste between terminal windows, so it's
probably a bug or a configuration error.

Maybe try a different terminal instead of xterm.  There are dozens to
choose from. I mostly use roxterm (full-height apart from the space used by
xfce4-panel, full-width, approx 250x60 depending on font size - great for
viewing log files), but sometimes I use xfce4-terminal if i want a tall,
narrow window (80 or 132 x 60) to fit beside something else.


> I do understand that there can be security issues if used without a measure
> of care and thoughtful, but it also has much merit when coping with some of
> the regular expressions that come up as examples in email and on web pages.

the "security issues" comes from blindly executing code/commands that you
don't understand.

treat everything as just an example that needs further research. never execute
something posted by someone else(*) unless you know what it does and how and 
why.


(*) ANYONE else. even if they're trustworthy and not malicious, they could be
wrong, they might have made a mistake.

craig

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craig sanders <[email protected]>
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