One of the issues we encountered designing a small virtualization farm was
that as you add more DIMMs to the system, the clock speed of the RAM had to
go down - addressing more addresses over a limited bandwidth meant ou
traded of speed for capacity...

we chose capacity - and lower speed, lower cost RAM - which worked out for
our use case (a few large high capacity VM's). If we had been planning one
of the bioinformatics grid compute modes, it would have been a different
story...

On 20 May 2018 at 01:17, Russell Coker via luv-main <[email protected]>
wrote:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR4_SDRAM
>
> At the LUV meeting today someone asked me how servers can have so much
> RAM.
> Firstly the above page is worth reading, DDR3 (which is in most desktop
> PCs in
> use now) can have a maximum of 16G per DIMM, some PCs only have 2 slots, 4
> is
> very common, and 6 is reasonably common for high end systems (I own a
> couple
> of those).  6*16G=96G as the theoretical maximum in a high-end DDR3
> desktop
> system and 6*64G=384G as the theoretical maximum of a DDR4 desktop, of
> course
> the BIOS or chipset might not support so much.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets
>
> The above page lists Intel chipsets and gives the maximum RAM supported.
> A
> lot of the Core 2 family were limited to 4G of address space, NB that's
> NOT 4G
> of RAM, that's 4G including address space for video cards etc - so 3.25G
> was a
> common amount of usable RAM on such systems.  The Wikipedia page doesn't
> give
> information on the RAM limits of the i3/i5/i7 systems.
>
> The DDR4 Wikipedia page says that one of the benefits of DDR4 is a maximum
> module size of 64G.  A quick check of my favorite PC parts store showed
> that
> they don't sell DDR3 larger than 8G modules or DDR4 larger than 16G
> (preumably
> I could get larger via mail order).  If I got a motherboard that took
> 6*DDR4
> DIMMs then I could have 96G of RAM, but that would cost me 6*$295=$1770 so
> I'm
> not about to do it.
>
> http://www.dell.com/en-au/work/shop/povw/poweredge-t640
>
> The Dell page for the PowerEdge T640 says that it has 24*DDR4 slots for up
> to
> 3TB of RAM with a caveat that the 128G modules aren't available yet (as an
> aside it seems like the DDR4 Wikipedia page needs an update in this
> regard).
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fully_Buffered_DIMM
>
> Threre are significant engineering issues related to supporting large
> numbers
> of DIMM sockets.  The above Wikipedia page is a good place to start if you
> want to learn about how server RAM is different from (and incompatible to)
> desktop RAM because of such issues.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_memory
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamming_code
>
> Another difference with server RAM is the use of Error Correcting Codes
> (see
> the above Wikipedia pages).  Server RAM has extra bits in each word to
> store
> codes that allow single bit errors to be detected and corrected and double
> bit
> errors to be detected.  It's a really good feature to have if you don't
> want
> your data to be corrupted.  It's also supported in high-end workstation
> systems and some systems have support for both ECC and non-ECC RAM.  ECC
> RAM
> is usually "buffered" and won't work in systems that take "unbuffered" RAM
> (IE
> all the desktop systems that don't use ECC RAM).  There is unbuffered ECC
> RAM
> for low-end server systems.  Apart from buffered vs unbuffered there's
> apparently no reason why ECC RAM shouldn't work in non-ECC systems,
> although
> when I tried this back in the P4 days (before buffered RAM was invented)
> it
> didn't work.
>
> One of the more dedicated members of this list got a free server system
> from
> LUV and uses it as his personal workstation.  It has something like 96G of
> RAM
> but makes more noise than most people want in the same building they are
> in.
> There's no reason why you couldn't design a system with 24 DIMM sockets
> that
> doesn't sound like an aircraft taking off, but most people who want so
> much
> RAM have a soundproofed server room.
>
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